This article is rated Start-class on Wikipedia's
content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
I propose merging Diplomatic missions of Bhutan into this article for the following reasons:
-- Россавиа Диалог 02:18, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
Kuzu zangpo Avala/Kransky. Firstly, I am Australian (just so you know). I have the utmost respect for Bhutan and the Bhutanese people (as yet, I haven't been able to avail myself of an invitation by several of the locals to visit Bhutan...locals are handy to know if you want to get around the US$200 per day regulations set down by the authorities), and merging the article is not a sign of disrespect. In fact, the reason I am editing articles relating to Wikipedia:WikiProject Bhutan (of which I am a member and will work towards reactivating the project), is that I have so much respect for the Bhutanese, and want to impart some of my knowledge on their country, the institutions, the culture, the people, so am also editing Bhutanese articles. Drukair is just one example of what I feel is a fine article (still in progress mind you). It is not my intention to merge Diplomatic missions of France into Foreign relations of France as the diplomatic network of France is notable, and to merge back into the F.R. article would cause undue weight issues. As a nation which has chosen to official relations with a select number of countries, and with a total of 4 embassies and 2 permanent missions, it is actually somewhat disrespectful to have a stub list with nothing written. There is nothing on the diplomatic network of Bhutan which would take Diplomatic missions of Bhutan past a short list as it exists right now, with perhaps 3 or 4 lines of text at most. If the Diplomatic missions of Foo lists are supposed to describe the diplomatic network of a given country, then I can say without a shred of bias that the table that I have introduced into this article describes the diplomatic network better than the short list possibly could, plus it allows for further development in relation to the Foreign relations of Bhutan. WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is not so much relevant in this case, as each case needs to be looked at by its own merits alone. I find it disheartening that every time I come up with a suggestion in regards to these Diplomatic mission articles that those suggestions are instantly shot down in flames, with some lecture on how best to spend my time on WP (in such as developing articles) (like I am not either writing articles myself or laying the groundwork for others to do...remember WP is a collaborative effort), and suggestions for improvement are thought of attacks on others work (hence why I say there are extreme ownership issues in regards to said articles). So if Diplomatic missions of Bhutan is not merged into this article, just what can we expect to see on that list/article in six months time? It would be best served, as it can't grow any further, being placed into this article (with a category left on the redirect, as per List of diplomatic missions in Bhutan). It is from the apparent consensus (which I still have not seen by the way) that Diplomatic missions of Foo article do not cover honorary consulates, however, in the interests of keeping a standard (which I will be pushing to change in the future, just a heads up) the details of such honorary consulates can't be mentioned in Diplomatic missions of Bhutan, even though they are instrumental in raising awareness of the country and in securing development aid for Bhutanese projects. Again, that is best served in this article, as it is directly related to the foreign relations of the country. -- Россавиа Диалог 16:58, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
Some further comment by myself here...what I am proposing in the merger is not a deletion of the Diplomatic missions of Bhutan article, but merely a merger into this article with relevant content. For example, the map on the mission page which is pretty basic, could be expanded to show those countries which have diplomatic relations with Bhutan, countries which host a Bhutanese missions and countries which have a mission in Bhutan, all in the one map. The photo of the UN mission can also easily be incorporated. And instead of simply recreating a redirect to this article, a redirect with categorisation can exist, such as that for List of mission in Bhutan. Additionally, please note what this article looked like before I introduced a sortable, formatted list. It looks a lot cleaner, and manages to include more information in a smaller space than missions in and of articles, and if it existed (as it does for a lot of other countries), date of establishment of diplomatic relations.
Strong Oppose per Avala and Kranksy Ijanderson977 ( talk) 13:11, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
Bhutan–United States relations has been redirected to this article for a couple of reasons:
Thinking more about it, there is not even a need in this article to mention the US specifically, otherwise we may as mention all 170+ countries with which Bhutan does not have diplomatic relations with. In the absolute absence of any relations between the two countries, Bhutan–United States relations has been set up as a redirect here, instead of taking it to AfD. -- Россавиа Диалог 17:38, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
There is now a discussion at WP:FOR on the formatting and content of "List of diplomatic missions" articles. As this discussion ostensibly could affect this article, editors are encouraged to provide their opinions on the WP:FOR at this link - Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_International_relations#Formatting_of_diplomatic_missions_lists - please do not discuss on this article talk page as valid points for consideration may very well not be seen by editors at large. Thank you, -- Russavia Dialogue Stalk me 22:44, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
Does anyone know why Bhutan has chosen not to establish formal diplomatic relations with any of the UN's "big five" (France, UK, US, China, Russia)? Aridd ( talk) 12:07, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
Cuba and Bhutan established diplomatic relations [1] - Canadian Bobby ( talk) 18:38, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
Relations to be established [2] - Canadian Bobby ( talk) 20:05, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
Why does Bhutan have diplomatic relations with so few of the world's countries? If anyone knows, I'd like to see that reason in the article. ekedolphin ( talk) 13:56, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just added archive links to one external link on
Foreign relations of Bhutan. Please take a moment to review
my edit. If necessary, add {{
cbignore}}
after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add {{
nobots|deny=InternetArchiveBot}}
to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:
When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true to let others know.
This message was posted before February 2018.
After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than
regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors
have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{
source check}}
(last update: 18 January 2022).
Cheers. — cyberbot II Talk to my owner:Online 21:58, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just added archive links to 6 external links on
Foreign relations of Bhutan. Please take a moment to review
my edit. If necessary, add {{
cbignore}}
after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add {{
nobots|deny=InternetArchiveBot}}
to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:
When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true to let others know.
This message was posted before February 2018.
After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than
regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors
have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{
source check}}
(last update: 18 January 2022).
Cheers.— cyberbot II Talk to my owner:Online 19:47, 27 February 2016 (UTC)
Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified 7 external links on Foreign relations of Bhutan. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
{{
dead link}}
tag to
http://www.nationalcouncil.bt/images/stories/PCode_En_04.pdf{{
dead link}}
tag to
http://www.mofa.gov.bh/MOFA/En/News/newsm-29-05-08-e.htm{{
dead link}}
tag to
http://www.sweden.gov.se/download/be284a3c.pdf?major=1&minor=24515&cn=attachmentPublDuplicator_0_attachmentWhen you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
This message was posted before February 2018.
After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than
regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors
have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{
source check}}
(last update: 18 January 2022).
Cheers.— InternetArchiveBot ( Report bug) 20:35, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified 9 external links on Foreign relations of Bhutan. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
{{
dead link}}
tag to
http://www.isria.com/pages/21_November_2011_397.phpWhen you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
This message was posted before February 2018.
After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than
regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors
have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{
source check}}
(last update: 18 January 2022).
Cheers.— InternetArchiveBot ( Report bug) 05:53, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified 5 external links on Foreign relations of Bhutan. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
This message was posted before February 2018.
After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than
regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors
have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{
source check}}
(last update: 18 January 2022).
Cheers.— InternetArchiveBot ( Report bug) 19:56, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
This article is rated Start-class on Wikipedia's
content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
I propose merging Diplomatic missions of Bhutan into this article for the following reasons:
-- Россавиа Диалог 02:18, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
Kuzu zangpo Avala/Kransky. Firstly, I am Australian (just so you know). I have the utmost respect for Bhutan and the Bhutanese people (as yet, I haven't been able to avail myself of an invitation by several of the locals to visit Bhutan...locals are handy to know if you want to get around the US$200 per day regulations set down by the authorities), and merging the article is not a sign of disrespect. In fact, the reason I am editing articles relating to Wikipedia:WikiProject Bhutan (of which I am a member and will work towards reactivating the project), is that I have so much respect for the Bhutanese, and want to impart some of my knowledge on their country, the institutions, the culture, the people, so am also editing Bhutanese articles. Drukair is just one example of what I feel is a fine article (still in progress mind you). It is not my intention to merge Diplomatic missions of France into Foreign relations of France as the diplomatic network of France is notable, and to merge back into the F.R. article would cause undue weight issues. As a nation which has chosen to official relations with a select number of countries, and with a total of 4 embassies and 2 permanent missions, it is actually somewhat disrespectful to have a stub list with nothing written. There is nothing on the diplomatic network of Bhutan which would take Diplomatic missions of Bhutan past a short list as it exists right now, with perhaps 3 or 4 lines of text at most. If the Diplomatic missions of Foo lists are supposed to describe the diplomatic network of a given country, then I can say without a shred of bias that the table that I have introduced into this article describes the diplomatic network better than the short list possibly could, plus it allows for further development in relation to the Foreign relations of Bhutan. WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is not so much relevant in this case, as each case needs to be looked at by its own merits alone. I find it disheartening that every time I come up with a suggestion in regards to these Diplomatic mission articles that those suggestions are instantly shot down in flames, with some lecture on how best to spend my time on WP (in such as developing articles) (like I am not either writing articles myself or laying the groundwork for others to do...remember WP is a collaborative effort), and suggestions for improvement are thought of attacks on others work (hence why I say there are extreme ownership issues in regards to said articles). So if Diplomatic missions of Bhutan is not merged into this article, just what can we expect to see on that list/article in six months time? It would be best served, as it can't grow any further, being placed into this article (with a category left on the redirect, as per List of diplomatic missions in Bhutan). It is from the apparent consensus (which I still have not seen by the way) that Diplomatic missions of Foo article do not cover honorary consulates, however, in the interests of keeping a standard (which I will be pushing to change in the future, just a heads up) the details of such honorary consulates can't be mentioned in Diplomatic missions of Bhutan, even though they are instrumental in raising awareness of the country and in securing development aid for Bhutanese projects. Again, that is best served in this article, as it is directly related to the foreign relations of the country. -- Россавиа Диалог 16:58, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
Some further comment by myself here...what I am proposing in the merger is not a deletion of the Diplomatic missions of Bhutan article, but merely a merger into this article with relevant content. For example, the map on the mission page which is pretty basic, could be expanded to show those countries which have diplomatic relations with Bhutan, countries which host a Bhutanese missions and countries which have a mission in Bhutan, all in the one map. The photo of the UN mission can also easily be incorporated. And instead of simply recreating a redirect to this article, a redirect with categorisation can exist, such as that for List of mission in Bhutan. Additionally, please note what this article looked like before I introduced a sortable, formatted list. It looks a lot cleaner, and manages to include more information in a smaller space than missions in and of articles, and if it existed (as it does for a lot of other countries), date of establishment of diplomatic relations.
Strong Oppose per Avala and Kranksy Ijanderson977 ( talk) 13:11, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
Bhutan–United States relations has been redirected to this article for a couple of reasons:
Thinking more about it, there is not even a need in this article to mention the US specifically, otherwise we may as mention all 170+ countries with which Bhutan does not have diplomatic relations with. In the absolute absence of any relations between the two countries, Bhutan–United States relations has been set up as a redirect here, instead of taking it to AfD. -- Россавиа Диалог 17:38, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
There is now a discussion at WP:FOR on the formatting and content of "List of diplomatic missions" articles. As this discussion ostensibly could affect this article, editors are encouraged to provide their opinions on the WP:FOR at this link - Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_International_relations#Formatting_of_diplomatic_missions_lists - please do not discuss on this article talk page as valid points for consideration may very well not be seen by editors at large. Thank you, -- Russavia Dialogue Stalk me 22:44, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
Does anyone know why Bhutan has chosen not to establish formal diplomatic relations with any of the UN's "big five" (France, UK, US, China, Russia)? Aridd ( talk) 12:07, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
Cuba and Bhutan established diplomatic relations [1] - Canadian Bobby ( talk) 18:38, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
Relations to be established [2] - Canadian Bobby ( talk) 20:05, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
Why does Bhutan have diplomatic relations with so few of the world's countries? If anyone knows, I'd like to see that reason in the article. ekedolphin ( talk) 13:56, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just added archive links to one external link on
Foreign relations of Bhutan. Please take a moment to review
my edit. If necessary, add {{
cbignore}}
after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add {{
nobots|deny=InternetArchiveBot}}
to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:
When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true to let others know.
This message was posted before February 2018.
After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than
regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors
have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{
source check}}
(last update: 18 January 2022).
Cheers. — cyberbot II Talk to my owner:Online 21:58, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just added archive links to 6 external links on
Foreign relations of Bhutan. Please take a moment to review
my edit. If necessary, add {{
cbignore}}
after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add {{
nobots|deny=InternetArchiveBot}}
to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:
When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true to let others know.
This message was posted before February 2018.
After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than
regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors
have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{
source check}}
(last update: 18 January 2022).
Cheers.— cyberbot II Talk to my owner:Online 19:47, 27 February 2016 (UTC)
Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified 7 external links on Foreign relations of Bhutan. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
{{
dead link}}
tag to
http://www.nationalcouncil.bt/images/stories/PCode_En_04.pdf{{
dead link}}
tag to
http://www.mofa.gov.bh/MOFA/En/News/newsm-29-05-08-e.htm{{
dead link}}
tag to
http://www.sweden.gov.se/download/be284a3c.pdf?major=1&minor=24515&cn=attachmentPublDuplicator_0_attachmentWhen you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
This message was posted before February 2018.
After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than
regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors
have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{
source check}}
(last update: 18 January 2022).
Cheers.— InternetArchiveBot ( Report bug) 20:35, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified 9 external links on Foreign relations of Bhutan. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
{{
dead link}}
tag to
http://www.isria.com/pages/21_November_2011_397.phpWhen you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
This message was posted before February 2018.
After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than
regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors
have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{
source check}}
(last update: 18 January 2022).
Cheers.— InternetArchiveBot ( Report bug) 05:53, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified 5 external links on Foreign relations of Bhutan. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
This message was posted before February 2018.
After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than
regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors
have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{
source check}}
(last update: 18 January 2022).
Cheers.— InternetArchiveBot ( Report bug) 19:56, 3 October 2017 (UTC)