This page was proposed for deletion by Solavirum ( talk · contribs) on 30 January 2021.

This article is rated C-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects:

Azerbaijan This article is within the scope of WikiProject Azerbaijan, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Azerbaijan-related topics on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.AzerbaijanWikipedia:WikiProject AzerbaijanTemplate:WikiProject AzerbaijanAzerbaijan articles ??? This article has not yet received a rating on the project's importance scale. Soviet Union This article is within the scope of WikiProject Soviet Union, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (USSR) on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Soviet UnionWikipedia:WikiProject Soviet UnionTemplate:WikiProject Soviet UnionSoviet Union articles ??? This article has not yet received a rating on the project's importance scale. Politics This article is within the scope of WikiProject Politics, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of politics on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.PoliticsWikipedia:WikiProject PoliticsTemplate:WikiProject Politicspolitics articles ??? This article has not yet received a rating on the project's importance scale.

Warning: active arbitration remedies The contentious topics procedure applies to this article. This article is related to Armenia, Azerbaijan, or related conflicts, which is a contentious topic. Furthermore, the following rules apply when editing this article: You must be logged-in, have 500 edits and an account age of 30 days Editors who repeatedly or seriously fail to adhere to the purpose of Wikipedia, any expected standards of behaviour, or any normal editorial process may be blocked or restricted by an administrator. Editors are advised to familiarise themselves with the contentious topics procedures before editing this page.

Reliable sources

First source Nationalities of the USSR: an ethnodemographic survey.

Second source History of the "Great Terror" in Azerbaijan

Third source Islamic and Ethnic Identities in Azerbaijan: Emerging Trends and Tensions.

Fourth source Talysh: Editor Arrested.

Fifth source Allegation of Minority Rights Violations in Azerbaijan.

Sixth source AZERBAIJANI AUTHORITIES ACCUSED OF DISCRIMINATING AGAINST ETHNIC MINORITIES.

Seventh source Why Did Azerbaijani Authorities Arrest Talysh Activist?.

Eighth source Ethnographie soviétique.

Ninth source Countries and peoples of the East.

Tenth source ECRI REPORT ON AZERBAIJAN.

Eleventh source The Peoples of the Soviet Union.

Reliable sources

In Defence of Minorities Rights in Azerbaijan.

AZERBAIJAN AUTHORITIES MUST RELEASE TALYSH ACTIVISTS.

Talysh are out of work.

The current version of the article lacks them. I didn't propose to delete the topic, but the article. --► Sincerely: Sola Virum 11:27, 30 January 2021 (UTC) reply

• • If there are the topic and sources, then why delete? These sources in English are alternative. If there is a topic, then the sources also exist.The Talysh assimilation is a actual topic and I believe that this must be in english wiki. Mad Irishman1789 ( talk) 12:13, 30 January 2021 (UTC) reply
    • Again, the proposal is to delete the article. No one has a problem with the topic itself. The phenomenon might or might not exist, this is not my concern. The issue here is that the article cites statistical numbers, and the sources don't imply assimilation. The articles also seems to be only about the Talysh people in Azerbaijan, so it can be merged (after massive rework) to Talysh#During modern history. --► Sincerely: Sola Virum 12:19, 30 January 2021 (UTC) reply
  • The topic is a rather serious and the decision will be made by the administrators, your case was deleted, and mine was to suspend the deletion of the article. The problem was in the sources and I will supplement the article with new sources. You have completed your task and we will look at the solution of the administrators. And the Talysh assimilation with the history of the Talysh cannot be united, since these are different topics. Mad Irishman1789 ( talk) 12:27, 30 January 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Why do you deny the reliability of the sources? on what basis do you claim this? How did you check the credibility of sources? Mad Irishman1789 ( talk) 12:49, 30 January 2021 (UTC) reply
    • Why do you deny the reliability of the sources, check your tone here. Don't come here tossing around such accusations, and show me a diff where I denied the "reliability of the sources". You are trying too hard to not understand my comments. --► Sincerely: Sola Virum 12:52, 30 January 2021 (UTC) reply
  • I asked you a question and there was no rudeness. And at the expense of denying the sources, you called them not serious, isn't this denying their reliability? If you do not deny the reliability of the sources, then why did you put the page on deletion? Mad Irishman1789 ( talk) 12:57, 30 January 2021 (UTC) reply

> the sources don't imply assimilation

The following sources do, though: [1] [2]

Books: [3] [4] [5] [6] [7]

Trying to delete this article given the multitude of sources describing this phenomenon would be quite dishonest. -- Qahramani44 ( talk) 22:29, 30 January 2021 (UTC) reply

Encyclopedia of the Stateless Nations:.

The Former Soviet Union's Diverse Peoples: A Reference Sourcebook.

Report on the USSR..

Encyclopedia of the Stateless Nations: S-Z.

The Soviet Multinational State: Readings and Documents.

Muslims of the Soviet Empire: A Guide.

Soviet Anthropology and Archeology, Volume 29.

The Peoples of the Soviet Union.

A Rand Note, Issue 3579.

The Caucasus: An Introduction.

Operation Soviet Union.

The Times Guide to the Peoples of Europe.

Great Soviet Encyclopedia, Volume 25.

The Thistle and the Drone: How America's War on Terror Became a Global War .

Encyclopaedic Ethnography of Middle-East and Central Asia, Volume 3.

FBIS Report: Central Eurasia, Issues 114-120.

Soviet Nationality Policies: Ruling Ethnic Groups in the USSR.

The Current Digest of the Soviet Press, Volume 40, Issues 1-26.