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this suffers from an excessively defensive tone
I improved the article a bit. The flag as it stands was approved by the voters in 1900. It seems Gov. Fleming was instumental in this, but the article makes it seem like he was solely responsible. I tried to improve the PoV in the article. Dominick 14:14, 28 Jun 2004 (UTC)
I am deeply troubled by Dominick's attempt to cover-up the vile and racist record of Francis P. Fleming. I am going to assume good faith that you did not know one of Fleming's first acts as Governor of Florida was to rollback voting rights for African-Americans, signing into law poll taxes and literacy tests. Furthermore, Fleming had Florida's only African-American judge (James Dean of Monroe County) removed from the bench for the high crime of marrying a white man to a black woman. Fleming was a segregationist, and this should be noted in the Flag of Florida article, or if you do not wish to call him a segregationist, maybe we should cite his record as Governor instead. -- H. CHENEY 02:43, 10 Jul 2004 (UTC)
Could the origin of the saltire (St. Andrew's Flag) in the Florida flag be in memory and honor of Florida's first territorial governor, Andrew Jackson? -- Dulcimerist 05:43, 16 October 2006 (UTC) cool
I grew up in Florida, and I remember the cross of Florida's flag as being red, not crimson. There is a distinct color difference between Florida's and Alabama's flag Rhatsa26X ( talk) 16:35, 15 December 2014 (CST)
The caption for the Burgundian Saltire stated that it was the flag of the Spanish Bourbons. This is incorrect. It was the flag of the Spanish Habsburgs, starting with Philip I of Castile, grandson of Charles le Téméraire of Burgundy. The Spanish Bourbons were descended from Louis XIV of France. The Bourbons did use the flag, but only for about eighty years. Chegitz guevara 18:10, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
What is the significance of the "Flag of Saint Patrick" in this article? Is there a link to Florida? -- HighKing ( talk) 15:05, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
How come the article only has info on the modern Florida flag and no previous Florida flags? Emperor001 ( talk) 04:43, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z A —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.229.95.155 ( talk) 21:44, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
From 1700s the Bourbons dinasty spread the white flag (Bourbons) with red cross of Burgundy for Spanish Armed Forces.
-- Santos30 ( talk) 21:27, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
I an removing this. The reference cited does not support it. If that flag flew for France I don't know. But it never flew in Florida for Spain. There is no "flag of the Spanish empire". The cross was _part_ of some flags, but it was never, ever a flag by itself. There is no picture of one. There is none in any museum in any Spanish-speaking country. deisenbe ( talk) 03:11, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
Isn't it supposed to be, "The design was approved by a popular referendum November 6, 1900," other than, "The design was approved by popular referendum November 6, 1900."? I think that's a typo, if not, please tell me. Thanks! TheFanGaming95 ( talk) 02:31, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
Oh, oops, I forgot to add "on" to, "The design was approved by a popular referendum November 6, 1900." TheFanGaming95 ( talk) 02:35, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
There's very little evidence that Florida's flag is tied in any way to the confederate flag. The one source included in this article is from a book where the the author basically throws Florida in the mix based on the timing of the change with no regard for any other context. Local historians are unable to make the same connection. Plus, that flag has ties going back to the 16th century. If there's not further evidence that section needs to be edited or removed. It's a little one sided. - Nemov ( talk)
A reminder. As editors we have to document what reliable research says has happened. In this case we have a handful of historians who disagree. Since that's the case we would need original research to help us. So far the only thing I have been able to find is speculation. The speculation could in fact be correct, but speculation isn't fact. Since that's the case this section has to remain neutral and not be presumptuous. Thanks! Nemov ( talk) 13:55, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
This page is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
this suffers from an excessively defensive tone
I improved the article a bit. The flag as it stands was approved by the voters in 1900. It seems Gov. Fleming was instumental in this, but the article makes it seem like he was solely responsible. I tried to improve the PoV in the article. Dominick 14:14, 28 Jun 2004 (UTC)
I am deeply troubled by Dominick's attempt to cover-up the vile and racist record of Francis P. Fleming. I am going to assume good faith that you did not know one of Fleming's first acts as Governor of Florida was to rollback voting rights for African-Americans, signing into law poll taxes and literacy tests. Furthermore, Fleming had Florida's only African-American judge (James Dean of Monroe County) removed from the bench for the high crime of marrying a white man to a black woman. Fleming was a segregationist, and this should be noted in the Flag of Florida article, or if you do not wish to call him a segregationist, maybe we should cite his record as Governor instead. -- H. CHENEY 02:43, 10 Jul 2004 (UTC)
Could the origin of the saltire (St. Andrew's Flag) in the Florida flag be in memory and honor of Florida's first territorial governor, Andrew Jackson? -- Dulcimerist 05:43, 16 October 2006 (UTC) cool
I grew up in Florida, and I remember the cross of Florida's flag as being red, not crimson. There is a distinct color difference between Florida's and Alabama's flag Rhatsa26X ( talk) 16:35, 15 December 2014 (CST)
The caption for the Burgundian Saltire stated that it was the flag of the Spanish Bourbons. This is incorrect. It was the flag of the Spanish Habsburgs, starting with Philip I of Castile, grandson of Charles le Téméraire of Burgundy. The Spanish Bourbons were descended from Louis XIV of France. The Bourbons did use the flag, but only for about eighty years. Chegitz guevara 18:10, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
What is the significance of the "Flag of Saint Patrick" in this article? Is there a link to Florida? -- HighKing ( talk) 15:05, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
How come the article only has info on the modern Florida flag and no previous Florida flags? Emperor001 ( talk) 04:43, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z A —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.229.95.155 ( talk) 21:44, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
From 1700s the Bourbons dinasty spread the white flag (Bourbons) with red cross of Burgundy for Spanish Armed Forces.
-- Santos30 ( talk) 21:27, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
I an removing this. The reference cited does not support it. If that flag flew for France I don't know. But it never flew in Florida for Spain. There is no "flag of the Spanish empire". The cross was _part_ of some flags, but it was never, ever a flag by itself. There is no picture of one. There is none in any museum in any Spanish-speaking country. deisenbe ( talk) 03:11, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
Isn't it supposed to be, "The design was approved by a popular referendum November 6, 1900," other than, "The design was approved by popular referendum November 6, 1900."? I think that's a typo, if not, please tell me. Thanks! TheFanGaming95 ( talk) 02:31, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
Oh, oops, I forgot to add "on" to, "The design was approved by a popular referendum November 6, 1900." TheFanGaming95 ( talk) 02:35, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
There's very little evidence that Florida's flag is tied in any way to the confederate flag. The one source included in this article is from a book where the the author basically throws Florida in the mix based on the timing of the change with no regard for any other context. Local historians are unable to make the same connection. Plus, that flag has ties going back to the 16th century. If there's not further evidence that section needs to be edited or removed. It's a little one sided. - Nemov ( talk)
A reminder. As editors we have to document what reliable research says has happened. In this case we have a handful of historians who disagree. Since that's the case we would need original research to help us. So far the only thing I have been able to find is speculation. The speculation could in fact be correct, but speculation isn't fact. Since that's the case this section has to remain neutral and not be presumptuous. Thanks! Nemov ( talk) 13:55, 7 January 2022 (UTC)