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Saying "2015 Egyptian military intervention in Libya" is very questionable. For example, the same day, we mention Lybian planes striking very similar targets. Tomorrow for all we know, planes from a third country, say the US or UK or France may be involved. We cannot lump all these together as "Egyptian" military intervention in Libya, can we? I also have some second thoughts about calling it an "intervention in Lybia". Egyptians are not "intervening" in Lybia, they are hitting what they believe are IS-affiliated bases in Lybia. The militants may not be even "Lybian" per se. For now better to say "Egyptian air strikes in Lybia". When there is follow-up ground activity, we may rethink the title. werldwayd ( talk) 02:47, 17 February 2015 (UTC) werldwayd ( talk) 03:18, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
Because the Sisi government says so and The Guardian regurgitated it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.206.95.167 ( talk) 04:47, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved. No support for the proposed move. Although a couple of editors suggested "2015 Egyptian airstrikes in Libya" as an alternative, it may be inaccurate if a ground operation was carried out as suggested in the final comment. Number 5 7 12:55, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
2015 Egyptian military intervention in Libya →
February 2015 Egyptian airstrikes in Libya or
2015 Egyptian airstrikes in Libya – (copied from
Talk:2015 kidnapping and beheading of Copts in Libya and reworded) I propose moving this article's title to February 2015 Egyptian airstrikes in Libya, and when Egypt's involvement in the conflict takes a lengthier turn, we might as well create something like
Egyptian military intervention in Libya (2014–present) to summarize all the relevant incidents, from last year's UAE-coordinated airstrikes and beyond. Thoughts?
Fitzcarmalan (
talk) 20:21, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
I strongly object to the inclusion of the
War on Terror in the "part of.." section of the infobox. I've explained to
LightandDark2000 on their talk page that this term still remains a controversial one, and that it mainly (if not always) applies to US-led anti-terrorism campaigns. I've also requested the editor to provide sources claiming that the airstrikes were part of these campaigns, but all of this was in vain as I was
reverted shortly afterwards on their talk page with the edit summary "Technically, any campaigns by legitimate countries against terrorist groups (especially al-Qaeda and ISIL) are considered to be part of the War on Terror.
" I still fail to see sources explicitly saying that the Egyptian operation was part of this particular "war". This is very likely original research and is unacceptable. All comments are welcome.
Fitzcarmalan (
talk) 09:28, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
Since ensuing ground operation by Egyptian Army is one of the majour reasons for keeping the title of the article as is, shouldn't we reflect at least what these ground actions were. One of those taking part quoted International Business Times source [1]. Why not incorporate this in the article then. werldwayd ( talk) 18:30, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
Instead of reverting, LightandDark2000 should provide the required source(s) backing up this claim: Sources indicate that Egyptian airstrikes continued for another 2 days. Otherwise this is just another hoax story like the military operation one. Fitzcarmalan ( talk) 08:00, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
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Saying "2015 Egyptian military intervention in Libya" is very questionable. For example, the same day, we mention Lybian planes striking very similar targets. Tomorrow for all we know, planes from a third country, say the US or UK or France may be involved. We cannot lump all these together as "Egyptian" military intervention in Libya, can we? I also have some second thoughts about calling it an "intervention in Lybia". Egyptians are not "intervening" in Lybia, they are hitting what they believe are IS-affiliated bases in Lybia. The militants may not be even "Lybian" per se. For now better to say "Egyptian air strikes in Lybia". When there is follow-up ground activity, we may rethink the title. werldwayd ( talk) 02:47, 17 February 2015 (UTC) werldwayd ( talk) 03:18, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
Because the Sisi government says so and The Guardian regurgitated it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.206.95.167 ( talk) 04:47, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved. No support for the proposed move. Although a couple of editors suggested "2015 Egyptian airstrikes in Libya" as an alternative, it may be inaccurate if a ground operation was carried out as suggested in the final comment. Number 5 7 12:55, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
2015 Egyptian military intervention in Libya →
February 2015 Egyptian airstrikes in Libya or
2015 Egyptian airstrikes in Libya – (copied from
Talk:2015 kidnapping and beheading of Copts in Libya and reworded) I propose moving this article's title to February 2015 Egyptian airstrikes in Libya, and when Egypt's involvement in the conflict takes a lengthier turn, we might as well create something like
Egyptian military intervention in Libya (2014–present) to summarize all the relevant incidents, from last year's UAE-coordinated airstrikes and beyond. Thoughts?
Fitzcarmalan (
talk) 20:21, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
I strongly object to the inclusion of the
War on Terror in the "part of.." section of the infobox. I've explained to
LightandDark2000 on their talk page that this term still remains a controversial one, and that it mainly (if not always) applies to US-led anti-terrorism campaigns. I've also requested the editor to provide sources claiming that the airstrikes were part of these campaigns, but all of this was in vain as I was
reverted shortly afterwards on their talk page with the edit summary "Technically, any campaigns by legitimate countries against terrorist groups (especially al-Qaeda and ISIL) are considered to be part of the War on Terror.
" I still fail to see sources explicitly saying that the Egyptian operation was part of this particular "war". This is very likely original research and is unacceptable. All comments are welcome.
Fitzcarmalan (
talk) 09:28, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
Since ensuing ground operation by Egyptian Army is one of the majour reasons for keeping the title of the article as is, shouldn't we reflect at least what these ground actions were. One of those taking part quoted International Business Times source [1]. Why not incorporate this in the article then. werldwayd ( talk) 18:30, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
Instead of reverting, LightandDark2000 should provide the required source(s) backing up this claim: Sources indicate that Egyptian airstrikes continued for another 2 days. Otherwise this is just another hoax story like the military operation one. Fitzcarmalan ( talk) 08:00, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
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