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Reviewer: Thebiguglyalien ( talk · contribs) 16:28, 12 June 2023 (UTC)
I'll have a review posted within the next day or two. Thebiguglyalien ( talk) 16:28, 12 June 2023 (UTC)
- I've finished the review. It was very easy to get through, with only a few minor issues to be addressed before it can be a GA. Thebiguglyalien ( talk) 19:42, 12 June 2023 (UTC)
Well-written
- The first paragraph of the lead might benefit from reordering or restructuring. Currently, it goes straight from saying that it's a song by Michelle Branch to talking about the details of its creation. The first two or three sentences should be the most important details, telling the reader what it is.
Additional musicians who were present at the recording session include keyboardist Patrick Warren and drummers Kenny Aronoff and Vinnie Colaiuta
– Why were they present? What were they doing?Maverick promoted it at hot adult contemporary and contemporary hit radio in the United States
– The way this is written makes it seem like these are places.unplugged versions
– This seems informal. Maybe change each use of this to "acoustic versions"."Everywhere" was written by Branch and Shanks
– This contradicts the previous section when it says Branch wrote it when she was 15. This should clarify what aspects they wrote at this point.Branch told MTV, "I like to keep my songs open-ended so people can listen to it and say, 'Oh, I think it means this. I've been through that.' Instead of having it be about" anything specific
– Dropping the quote mid-thought like this is distracting. At this point, you may as well paraphrase the entire quote.and was filmed after the song was added to radio
– Is "added to radio" a common term as opposed to something like "began broadcasting on the radio"?The video shows Branch stalking a man
– "Stalking" is a value-laden word and should be avoided, especially if it's cited to the video itself.The video received airings
– Consider "aired" instead of "received airings".
- Verifiable with no original research
What makes these sources reliable:
- Post Grad Problems
- 2000s Throwbacks
- Pop Dust
- Cool Accidents
Spot checks:
- [1] Lipshutz (2017) – Does this support that it
was left intentionally ambiguous by Branch, who did not write the song from personal experience
or thatBranch said that the material of her first two albums, including "Everywhere", is "hopelessly romantic"
? - [2] Garr (2018) – This source doesn't mention Maverick.
- [18] MTV (2001) – This source doesn't support
peeping Tom
. - [24] Lakshmin (2017) – This source doesn't support the
teenage rhyme
orlittle crush
quotes.- [18] mentions "little crush", but I see what's wrong with the other one. I'll see if I can find something that says her stating that outright. ResPM ( T🔈 🎵C) 20:51, 12 June 2023 (UTC)
- I've found a source where Branch uses the term "Peeping Tom". In the MTV article, watch the video "Michelle Branch Reacts to 'Everywhere' & Realizes She's a Stalker | MTV". Starting at 2:39, Branch says "It's kind of a stalk-ery video; it's just me looking out my window into my neighbors' windows, so...it's like I was a peeping Tom." I generally look down on citing YouTube videos, but if you'd rather have the video cited directly instead of from another website, I suppose this instance would be okay. ResPM ( T🔈 🎵C) 11:19, 13 June 2023 (UTC)
- [34] Michelle Branch Chart History (Pop Songs) – Good.
It looks like the only real issue with the sourcing is that there are instances where citations for different ideas are clumped together, making it impossible to tell what citation goes to what info without reading each source individually. Strictly speaking, this is only a GA problem with quotes, though I'd recommend maintaining text source integrity as much as possible.
- Another user once told me to put all the citations at the end of a sentence, and that's something that's always stuck with me. At any rate, it's not "impossible" since people can just verify the online sources right then and there to ensure everything's correct. ResPM ( T🔈 🎵C) 20:51, 12 June 2023 (UTC)
- Broad in its coverage
Covers production, composition, release, and reception. No instances of excessive minor detail.
- Neutral
The article is neither laudatory nor critical. No individual critic or interpretation is given undue weight.
- Stable
No recent content disputes.
- Illustrated
The single's cover art and the music video screen shot both have acceptable non-free use rationales, though the one for the cover art could afford to be more detailed. I'm personally not a fan of including images of tangentially related people on articles, but I don't believe there's a rule against it. Image captions are more than sufficient.
Comments
@ Thebiguglyalien: I've removed all the sources you marked as unreliable, copyedited the article according to your suggestions, and expanded the cover art's rationale. Please review my notes above and let me know if there's anything else I need to take care of. ResPM ( T🔈 🎵C) 11:19, 13 June 2023 (UTC)
- It looks like everything has been addressed. I'll mark this one as a good article. Thebiguglyalien ( talk) 17:01, 13 June 2023 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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Reviewer: Thebiguglyalien ( talk · contribs) 16:28, 12 June 2023 (UTC)
I'll have a review posted within the next day or two. Thebiguglyalien ( talk) 16:28, 12 June 2023 (UTC)
- I've finished the review. It was very easy to get through, with only a few minor issues to be addressed before it can be a GA. Thebiguglyalien ( talk) 19:42, 12 June 2023 (UTC)
- Well-written
- The first paragraph of the lead might benefit from reordering or restructuring. Currently, it goes straight from saying that it's a song by Michelle Branch to talking about the details of its creation. The first two or three sentences should be the most important details, telling the reader what it is.
Additional musicians who were present at the recording session include keyboardist Patrick Warren and drummers Kenny Aronoff and Vinnie Colaiuta
– Why were they present? What were they doing?Maverick promoted it at hot adult contemporary and contemporary hit radio in the United States
– The way this is written makes it seem like these are places.unplugged versions
– This seems informal. Maybe change each use of this to "acoustic versions"."Everywhere" was written by Branch and Shanks
– This contradicts the previous section when it says Branch wrote it when she was 15. This should clarify what aspects they wrote at this point.Branch told MTV, "I like to keep my songs open-ended so people can listen to it and say, 'Oh, I think it means this. I've been through that.' Instead of having it be about" anything specific
– Dropping the quote mid-thought like this is distracting. At this point, you may as well paraphrase the entire quote.and was filmed after the song was added to radio
– Is "added to radio" a common term as opposed to something like "began broadcasting on the radio"?The video shows Branch stalking a man
– "Stalking" is a value-laden word and should be avoided, especially if it's cited to the video itself.The video received airings
– Consider "aired" instead of "received airings".
- Verifiable with no original research
What makes these sources reliable:
- Post Grad Problems
- 2000s Throwbacks
- Pop Dust
- Cool Accidents
Spot checks:
- [1] Lipshutz (2017) – Does this support that it
was left intentionally ambiguous by Branch, who did not write the song from personal experience
or thatBranch said that the material of her first two albums, including "Everywhere", is "hopelessly romantic"
? - [2] Garr (2018) – This source doesn't mention Maverick.
- [18] MTV (2001) – This source doesn't support
peeping Tom
. - [24] Lakshmin (2017) – This source doesn't support the
teenage rhyme
orlittle crush
quotes.- [18] mentions "little crush", but I see what's wrong with the other one. I'll see if I can find something that says her stating that outright. ResPM ( T🔈 🎵C) 20:51, 12 June 2023 (UTC)
- I've found a source where Branch uses the term "Peeping Tom". In the MTV article, watch the video "Michelle Branch Reacts to 'Everywhere' & Realizes She's a Stalker | MTV". Starting at 2:39, Branch says "It's kind of a stalk-ery video; it's just me looking out my window into my neighbors' windows, so...it's like I was a peeping Tom." I generally look down on citing YouTube videos, but if you'd rather have the video cited directly instead of from another website, I suppose this instance would be okay. ResPM ( T🔈 🎵C) 11:19, 13 June 2023 (UTC)
- [34] Michelle Branch Chart History (Pop Songs) – Good.
It looks like the only real issue with the sourcing is that there are instances where citations for different ideas are clumped together, making it impossible to tell what citation goes to what info without reading each source individually. Strictly speaking, this is only a GA problem with quotes, though I'd recommend maintaining text source integrity as much as possible.
- Another user once told me to put all the citations at the end of a sentence, and that's something that's always stuck with me. At any rate, it's not "impossible" since people can just verify the online sources right then and there to ensure everything's correct. ResPM ( T🔈 🎵C) 20:51, 12 June 2023 (UTC)
- Broad in its coverage
Covers production, composition, release, and reception. No instances of excessive minor detail.
- Neutral
The article is neither laudatory nor critical. No individual critic or interpretation is given undue weight.
- Stable
No recent content disputes.
- Illustrated
The single's cover art and the music video screen shot both have acceptable non-free use rationales, though the one for the cover art could afford to be more detailed. I'm personally not a fan of including images of tangentially related people on articles, but I don't believe there's a rule against it. Image captions are more than sufficient.
Comments
@ Thebiguglyalien: I've removed all the sources you marked as unreliable, copyedited the article according to your suggestions, and expanded the cover art's rationale. Please review my notes above and let me know if there's anything else I need to take care of. ResPM ( T🔈 🎵C) 11:19, 13 June 2023 (UTC)
- It looks like everything has been addressed. I'll mark this one as a good article. Thebiguglyalien ( talk) 17:01, 13 June 2023 (UTC)