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Is this actually part of the Sudanese nomadic conflicts? Greyshark09 ( talk) 17:02, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
NY times claims so:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/13/world/africa/south-sudan-massacres-follow-independence.html?_r=1
Although there are counter claims:
© Geni 00:57, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
The Nuer and Murle are culturally, linguistically and ethnically distinct. Tribal suggest they share a common ethnicity which is simply not the case. -- Secondat of Orange ( talk) 01:49, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
I believe this page should be renamed Murle-Nuer conflict or Nuer-SSDM conflict, this because:
As it stands the misleading name has lead to actions by other South Sudanese insurgent groups to be included on the article. --- Secondat of Orange ( talk) 11:10, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: No move as of yet. If the intention is to split the article, that can be done without an RM, and the discussion between the involved editors should continue below. If and when the split is carried out, the article can be moved to a more suitable title by myself or another admin uncontroversially. Cúchullain t/ c 13:56, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
South Sudan internal conflict (2011–present) → Murle-Nuer conflict – Most of this article is about the violence between Murle and Nuer in Jonglei. The other clashes have different combatants and should be separated out. Keitsist ( talk) 08:25, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
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The discussion regarding events at the beginning of this article are opinion. There is no proof that the boycott and event lead to or caused the initial outbreak of violence in Juba (accused coup attempt), and therefor can NOT be assumed as the original cause of the violence. If anything, the removal of Riek from vice-presidency should then also be listed as a 'instigating factor'. I dont approve of this article at all. Even claiming it as a civil war can be questioned. All the references for calling it a civil war are from news agencies. They hardly have the right to make a decision if it is in fact a civil war, and use such terms to gain more readers attention. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.84.205.230 ( talk) 22:28, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
I don't see any difference in subject matter between this page and South Sudanese Civil War, the latter is simply about the intensification of the former, besides, the former is quite out of date and is lacking in substance and the latter could use some more backround. Charles Essie ( talk) 17:26, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
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How about we format the article in to sections such as Murle-Nuer violence, Nuer-Dinka violence and so on instead of a timeline, as it might seem to flow better. Additionally, I was thinking of changing the title to "Ethnic violence in South Sudan", removing the "(2011-present)". There is nothing special about 2011 in terms of ethnic violence or some definite beginning to a new phase. This article was made before the civil war started as a single war with a infobox, which is a point hardly supported by sources. Since the civil war started there has been a lot of overlap and for largely those reasons most voted to change the article anyway from the discussion above but nothing came of it. I think doing this should make this article useful on its own. JustBeCool ( talk) 15:42, 27 November 2016 (UTC)
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How is South Sudan in any way shape or form related to Papua New Guinea? "There are some tribal conflicts"? It seems entirely unrelated, I will remove the "see also" links - Running 17:56, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
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Is this actually part of the Sudanese nomadic conflicts? Greyshark09 ( talk) 17:02, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
NY times claims so:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/13/world/africa/south-sudan-massacres-follow-independence.html?_r=1
Although there are counter claims:
© Geni 00:57, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
The Nuer and Murle are culturally, linguistically and ethnically distinct. Tribal suggest they share a common ethnicity which is simply not the case. -- Secondat of Orange ( talk) 01:49, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
I believe this page should be renamed Murle-Nuer conflict or Nuer-SSDM conflict, this because:
As it stands the misleading name has lead to actions by other South Sudanese insurgent groups to be included on the article. --- Secondat of Orange ( talk) 11:10, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: No move as of yet. If the intention is to split the article, that can be done without an RM, and the discussion between the involved editors should continue below. If and when the split is carried out, the article can be moved to a more suitable title by myself or another admin uncontroversially. Cúchullain t/ c 13:56, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
South Sudan internal conflict (2011–present) → Murle-Nuer conflict – Most of this article is about the violence between Murle and Nuer in Jonglei. The other clashes have different combatants and should be separated out. Keitsist ( talk) 08:25, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
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The discussion regarding events at the beginning of this article are opinion. There is no proof that the boycott and event lead to or caused the initial outbreak of violence in Juba (accused coup attempt), and therefor can NOT be assumed as the original cause of the violence. If anything, the removal of Riek from vice-presidency should then also be listed as a 'instigating factor'. I dont approve of this article at all. Even claiming it as a civil war can be questioned. All the references for calling it a civil war are from news agencies. They hardly have the right to make a decision if it is in fact a civil war, and use such terms to gain more readers attention. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.84.205.230 ( talk) 22:28, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
I don't see any difference in subject matter between this page and South Sudanese Civil War, the latter is simply about the intensification of the former, besides, the former is quite out of date and is lacking in substance and the latter could use some more backround. Charles Essie ( talk) 17:26, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
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Cheers.— cyberbot II Talk to my owner:Online 02:43, 26 February 2016 (UTC)
How about we format the article in to sections such as Murle-Nuer violence, Nuer-Dinka violence and so on instead of a timeline, as it might seem to flow better. Additionally, I was thinking of changing the title to "Ethnic violence in South Sudan", removing the "(2011-present)". There is nothing special about 2011 in terms of ethnic violence or some definite beginning to a new phase. This article was made before the civil war started as a single war with a infobox, which is a point hardly supported by sources. Since the civil war started there has been a lot of overlap and for largely those reasons most voted to change the article anyway from the discussion above but nothing came of it. I think doing this should make this article useful on its own. JustBeCool ( talk) 15:42, 27 November 2016 (UTC)
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How is South Sudan in any way shape or form related to Papua New Guinea? "There are some tribal conflicts"? It seems entirely unrelated, I will remove the "see also" links - Running 17:56, 2 January 2024 (UTC)