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This is a good start... But, should this be an overview of all Poe in pop culture info? That would include, I'm assuming, all the film/TV and music stuff (links to main pages under a section header). It seems right now it's only focused on literature, which is okay, but in that case the article should be "Edgar Allan Poe in literature." I think it would be convenient to use this as a starting point to, well, all the pop culture references, allusions, interpretations, etc. Thoughts? Midnightdreary 00:02, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
Edgar Allan Poe had no children. Hence, he cannot have any descendents. The claim added to the article that this supposed "Edgar Allan Poe IV" actor is a descendent of Poe is fraudulent. I'm removing it. Wje 06:59, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
This article contains a lot of redlinked four- or five-word entries, simply listing a book (which has no Wikipedia page) by an author (who is similarly unreferenced). At the very least these entries should include some clarification as to how Poe is used in the works, and if neither the work nor the author has been judged notable by the process of inclusion in Wikipedia, we might consider removing some of them altogether.
Unless someone else wants to do it between now and then, I think I'll go through and make some of these changes myself in the next few days. I wanted to open the subject to discussion here so that hopefully some of the entries can be salvaged by people who know what they're actually about, before they are deleted. PaladinWhite 16:29, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
Following on from the above discussion I have tagged up some of the entries requesting a sentence on how they fit in this entry (using: {{vague|explain inclusion with a short sentence on how this fits in this entry}} - copy and paste it in to other list items if you feel they need more explanation) and I have removed the following:
This doesn't imply that they aren't notable per se just that there is so little information given here (for both novel and author) that we have no way of assessing them. If you feel they have been unjustly removed then feel free to put them back in with a short sentence on how they fit with the remit of this entry and also provide a reference (to satisy WP:V) and/or start the relevant entry. ( Emperor 16:06, 25 April 2007 (UTC))
As there are so many appearance sin visual media it'd be interesting to have a few images of different actors playing him/different interpretations. I did a little digging and found a couple of Combs from the Masters of Horror [2] [3] and the cover of Batman: Nevermore #1 [4]. Anyone got any favourites? If so we could draw up a wishlist and try and get the requested scans/screengrabs. ( Emperor 12:04, 1 August 2007 (UTC))
Be on the lookout for a possible nomination to delete this article. Several similar articles are going through the meatgrinder as we speak: Bigfoot in popular culture, Loch Ness Monster and popular culture, Pac-Man in popular culture, and a few others. It's quite rampant: take a look at Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Popular culture. Do we think this article is worthwhile? My personal argument has always been better here than there, but that's not a valid argument. I think the only way we can keep this article worthwhile is by having significant context and not just being an indiscriminate collection of information. I know we have talked about this quite a few times... -- Midnightdreary 14:29, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
'Edgar Allan Poe's appearances in fiction, film, and television often emphasize different aspects of his presumed personality. Very often, for example, he is used in mystery novels as a detective as an homage to his status as inventor of the detective story. Recent examples include works by Harold Schechter, Matthew Pearl, and Louis Bayard. Many novels often blur the line between Poe's characters and Poe the man. For example, Frank Lovelock creates Poe's famous Lenore as a real person in Poe's life in "Lenore: The Last Narrative of Edgar Allan Poe." Just a start, anyway. -- Midnightdreary 14:39, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
I removed most of the recent additions [5] - the lead is clear about the remit of this article as is the above discussion. Poe on a beer bottle, etc. is not within our purview and shouldn't be put here. ( Emperor 21:38, 13 October 2007 (UTC))
I'm pretty sure that the Poe is actually a reference to a type a malovent spirit in Chinese folk lore, not my speciality something like Gaellic faeries, except the Chinese and the Chinese didn't kiss up to them calling them the goodly folk or any of that. Whatever, I don't need to prove I'm right, cause you got no proof that Edgar Allan has anything to do with Zelda. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.137.207.191 ( talk) 07:21, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
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This is a good start... But, should this be an overview of all Poe in pop culture info? That would include, I'm assuming, all the film/TV and music stuff (links to main pages under a section header). It seems right now it's only focused on literature, which is okay, but in that case the article should be "Edgar Allan Poe in literature." I think it would be convenient to use this as a starting point to, well, all the pop culture references, allusions, interpretations, etc. Thoughts? Midnightdreary 00:02, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
Edgar Allan Poe had no children. Hence, he cannot have any descendents. The claim added to the article that this supposed "Edgar Allan Poe IV" actor is a descendent of Poe is fraudulent. I'm removing it. Wje 06:59, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
This article contains a lot of redlinked four- or five-word entries, simply listing a book (which has no Wikipedia page) by an author (who is similarly unreferenced). At the very least these entries should include some clarification as to how Poe is used in the works, and if neither the work nor the author has been judged notable by the process of inclusion in Wikipedia, we might consider removing some of them altogether.
Unless someone else wants to do it between now and then, I think I'll go through and make some of these changes myself in the next few days. I wanted to open the subject to discussion here so that hopefully some of the entries can be salvaged by people who know what they're actually about, before they are deleted. PaladinWhite 16:29, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
Following on from the above discussion I have tagged up some of the entries requesting a sentence on how they fit in this entry (using: {{vague|explain inclusion with a short sentence on how this fits in this entry}} - copy and paste it in to other list items if you feel they need more explanation) and I have removed the following:
This doesn't imply that they aren't notable per se just that there is so little information given here (for both novel and author) that we have no way of assessing them. If you feel they have been unjustly removed then feel free to put them back in with a short sentence on how they fit with the remit of this entry and also provide a reference (to satisy WP:V) and/or start the relevant entry. ( Emperor 16:06, 25 April 2007 (UTC))
As there are so many appearance sin visual media it'd be interesting to have a few images of different actors playing him/different interpretations. I did a little digging and found a couple of Combs from the Masters of Horror [2] [3] and the cover of Batman: Nevermore #1 [4]. Anyone got any favourites? If so we could draw up a wishlist and try and get the requested scans/screengrabs. ( Emperor 12:04, 1 August 2007 (UTC))
Be on the lookout for a possible nomination to delete this article. Several similar articles are going through the meatgrinder as we speak: Bigfoot in popular culture, Loch Ness Monster and popular culture, Pac-Man in popular culture, and a few others. It's quite rampant: take a look at Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Popular culture. Do we think this article is worthwhile? My personal argument has always been better here than there, but that's not a valid argument. I think the only way we can keep this article worthwhile is by having significant context and not just being an indiscriminate collection of information. I know we have talked about this quite a few times... -- Midnightdreary 14:29, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
'Edgar Allan Poe's appearances in fiction, film, and television often emphasize different aspects of his presumed personality. Very often, for example, he is used in mystery novels as a detective as an homage to his status as inventor of the detective story. Recent examples include works by Harold Schechter, Matthew Pearl, and Louis Bayard. Many novels often blur the line between Poe's characters and Poe the man. For example, Frank Lovelock creates Poe's famous Lenore as a real person in Poe's life in "Lenore: The Last Narrative of Edgar Allan Poe." Just a start, anyway. -- Midnightdreary 14:39, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
I removed most of the recent additions [5] - the lead is clear about the remit of this article as is the above discussion. Poe on a beer bottle, etc. is not within our purview and shouldn't be put here. ( Emperor 21:38, 13 October 2007 (UTC))
I'm pretty sure that the Poe is actually a reference to a type a malovent spirit in Chinese folk lore, not my speciality something like Gaellic faeries, except the Chinese and the Chinese didn't kiss up to them calling them the goodly folk or any of that. Whatever, I don't need to prove I'm right, cause you got no proof that Edgar Allan has anything to do with Zelda. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.137.207.191 ( talk) 07:21, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
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