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I left the following feedback for the creator/future reviewers while reviewing this article: Doesn't appear to have any new notability indicated from when it went through AfD. Marking it unreviewed to let someone fresh take a look..
Per
WP:NMOTORSPORT, anyone who runs even so much as a single race in NASCAR's top three national series (all of which are "fully professional" and air every race on live television every week) is good enough to satisfy
WP:GNG. --
Bcschneider53 (
talk) 01:31, 10 September 2019 (UTC)reply
Bcschneider53, that's not what WP:NMOTORSPORT says. It says that if someone qualifies we can presume that they pass GNG. We knew that he ran in Nascar's series when he was at AfD in May. I am skeptical, based on the work I did at that time, that he passes GNG. However, it's fair enough that Wilsome feels different and out of respect for him I just want another NPP to give their judgement. It might be that they feel there's enough here to satisfy notability and mark it reviewed or they might think that there's not enough and will propose it for AfD again. Best,
Barkeep49 (
talk) 02:07, 10 September 2019 (UTC)reply
Barkeep49 If that's the case, we may need to rewrite the criteria. I've been a member of the NASCAR WikiProject for years now and from my experience we've consistently gone by the standard that a Cup, Xfinity, or Truck start is an automatic pass. That being said, I respect the community's input, so I'm open to hearing what others have to say. --
Bcschneider53 (
talk) 02:28, 10 September 2019 (UTC)reply
Bcschneider53, there's a discussion on this very topic, albeit with a slightly different slant, going on right now at
WT:NSPORT you might wish to participate in. Best,
Barkeep49 (
talk) 02:42, 10 September 2019 (UTC)reply
Contested deletion
This page should not be speedily deleted because theres substantially more content than the one that was AfDed. --
Willsome429 (
say hey or
see my edits!) 01:11, 10 September 2019 (UTC)reply
Willsome429, can you explain how notability has changed since the last AfD? –
bradv🍁 01:50, 10 September 2019 (UTC)reply
Per
WP:NMOTORSPORT, drivers with at least one start in a fully professional series are considered notable to pass GNG. Per WikiProjext NASCAR and as mentioned elsewhere on this talk page, that includes the Craftsman Truck Series, therefore satisfying the page’s notability concerns. The page that was deleted had one sentence; this one proves GNG by having multiple sources with SIGCOV. My AfD vote indicated that I knew the page passed notability, just that it was better to nuke it until somebody had time to make a proper go of it. This is what I consider to be a proper go of it, with enough sources to fulfill GNG.
Willsome429 (
say hey or
see my edits!) 01:56, 10 September 2019 (UTC)reply
This article was nominated for
deletion on May 23, 2019. The result of
the discussion was delete.
This article must adhere to the biographies of living persons (BLP) policy, even if it is not a biography, because it contains material about living persons. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or
poorly sourcedmust be removed immediately from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially
libellous. If such material is repeatedly inserted, or if you have other concerns, please report the issue to
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I left the following feedback for the creator/future reviewers while reviewing this article: Doesn't appear to have any new notability indicated from when it went through AfD. Marking it unreviewed to let someone fresh take a look..
Per
WP:NMOTORSPORT, anyone who runs even so much as a single race in NASCAR's top three national series (all of which are "fully professional" and air every race on live television every week) is good enough to satisfy
WP:GNG. --
Bcschneider53 (
talk) 01:31, 10 September 2019 (UTC)reply
Bcschneider53, that's not what WP:NMOTORSPORT says. It says that if someone qualifies we can presume that they pass GNG. We knew that he ran in Nascar's series when he was at AfD in May. I am skeptical, based on the work I did at that time, that he passes GNG. However, it's fair enough that Wilsome feels different and out of respect for him I just want another NPP to give their judgement. It might be that they feel there's enough here to satisfy notability and mark it reviewed or they might think that there's not enough and will propose it for AfD again. Best,
Barkeep49 (
talk) 02:07, 10 September 2019 (UTC)reply
Barkeep49 If that's the case, we may need to rewrite the criteria. I've been a member of the NASCAR WikiProject for years now and from my experience we've consistently gone by the standard that a Cup, Xfinity, or Truck start is an automatic pass. That being said, I respect the community's input, so I'm open to hearing what others have to say. --
Bcschneider53 (
talk) 02:28, 10 September 2019 (UTC)reply
Bcschneider53, there's a discussion on this very topic, albeit with a slightly different slant, going on right now at
WT:NSPORT you might wish to participate in. Best,
Barkeep49 (
talk) 02:42, 10 September 2019 (UTC)reply
Contested deletion
This page should not be speedily deleted because theres substantially more content than the one that was AfDed. --
Willsome429 (
say hey or
see my edits!) 01:11, 10 September 2019 (UTC)reply
Willsome429, can you explain how notability has changed since the last AfD? –
bradv🍁 01:50, 10 September 2019 (UTC)reply
Per
WP:NMOTORSPORT, drivers with at least one start in a fully professional series are considered notable to pass GNG. Per WikiProjext NASCAR and as mentioned elsewhere on this talk page, that includes the Craftsman Truck Series, therefore satisfying the page’s notability concerns. The page that was deleted had one sentence; this one proves GNG by having multiple sources with SIGCOV. My AfD vote indicated that I knew the page passed notability, just that it was better to nuke it until somebody had time to make a proper go of it. This is what I consider to be a proper go of it, with enough sources to fulfill GNG.
Willsome429 (
say hey or
see my edits!) 01:56, 10 September 2019 (UTC)reply