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Does anyone know the identity of Hotel X? ( Sasquatchuk 20:56, 23 October 2006 (UTC))
Hello,
I read "Down and Out in Paris and London" a few years ago and naturally thought it was a piece of non-fiction. However, after visting my local library, I found the book, only this publisher said it was a work of fiction! After a few searches on the Internet, I see that others also say it's a work of fiction.
To say the least, I'm a bit confused. For some reason, I'm also a bit unsettled. Have the realities of Orwell's book on poverty been an object of debate? If it is non-fiction, why are there publishers out there who say it's fiction?
Thank-you.
Dude............................
Does plongeur mean "dishwasher"? Thanks -- 198.59.190.201 19:46, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
20:56, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
One user seems to want to add comments about the supposed antisemitism and racism of this book into the lead, I and at least one other editor think that although these facts are of sufficient notability to be included, they are not of sufficient weight to be included in the lead. CombatWombat42 ( talk) 15:38, 6 August 2014 (UTC)
Plot summaries are the worst thing about Wikipedia. Really. Background and critical reception, that's all. 91.66.82.175 ( talk) 14:48, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Down and Out in Paris and London/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.
The introduction/overview of the article is quite poor. The first sentence should not refer to Orwell as having "lived in both cities" but should name both cities by name. The summary of his time in Paris is oversimplistic, and I don't really think that it's extremely important that he got free wine, he mentions it at most twice, and it is only a passing reference each time. There are also glaring errors, Orwell did not in fact work as a bookshop assistant, or a tutor while in London. In fact the entire second half of the book is a recount of living as a tramp in the London area while waiting for a job caring for an "imbecile" opens up. Also the summary should be in present tense, not past. And although it remains a point of contention whether or not this book is fictional or completely true, the main character should be referred to just as that, the main character, as Orwell never says specifically that the main character is in fact him. |
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Does anyone know the identity of Hotel X? ( Sasquatchuk 20:56, 23 October 2006 (UTC))
Hello,
I read "Down and Out in Paris and London" a few years ago and naturally thought it was a piece of non-fiction. However, after visting my local library, I found the book, only this publisher said it was a work of fiction! After a few searches on the Internet, I see that others also say it's a work of fiction.
To say the least, I'm a bit confused. For some reason, I'm also a bit unsettled. Have the realities of Orwell's book on poverty been an object of debate? If it is non-fiction, why are there publishers out there who say it's fiction?
Thank-you.
Dude............................
Does plongeur mean "dishwasher"? Thanks -- 198.59.190.201 19:46, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
20:56, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
One user seems to want to add comments about the supposed antisemitism and racism of this book into the lead, I and at least one other editor think that although these facts are of sufficient notability to be included, they are not of sufficient weight to be included in the lead. CombatWombat42 ( talk) 15:38, 6 August 2014 (UTC)
Plot summaries are the worst thing about Wikipedia. Really. Background and critical reception, that's all. 91.66.82.175 ( talk) 14:48, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Down and Out in Paris and London/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.
The introduction/overview of the article is quite poor. The first sentence should not refer to Orwell as having "lived in both cities" but should name both cities by name. The summary of his time in Paris is oversimplistic, and I don't really think that it's extremely important that he got free wine, he mentions it at most twice, and it is only a passing reference each time. There are also glaring errors, Orwell did not in fact work as a bookshop assistant, or a tutor while in London. In fact the entire second half of the book is a recount of living as a tramp in the London area while waiting for a job caring for an "imbecile" opens up. Also the summary should be in present tense, not past. And although it remains a point of contention whether or not this book is fictional or completely true, the main character should be referred to just as that, the main character, as Orwell never says specifically that the main character is in fact him. |
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