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This article, which I'm trying to get towards GA status, currently uses the SSSI infobox although the historic site one might be more appropriate as the Iron Age hillfort is probably the most significant feature - what do you think?— Rod talk 08:41, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
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The lead is short, but it does cover everything and I am happy with it.
Do you have a reference for it being known "natively" as Dolebury Warren? In the lead, it is "Dolebury Warren (aka Camp)" yet in the infobox it seems the other way round.
I have looked at articles on similar topics which have reached GA, including your article on
Solsbury Hill, and wonder whether this could be added; if so, then it should be (I accept that there may not be sources for it).
Brief, but it does give a topographical overview. As mentioned below, the path sentence about the Limestone Link path could be moved here. In the lead and ecology sections, you briefly mention the "differing soil types". Is there anything that could be included in this section to elaborate on that?
General points:
While all the content is here, I feel that this subsection is a bit confused in its ordering. You start by describing the hillfort as it is now and telling us that the site has been occupied since the Iron Age. You tell us about these forts in general, then you go back to describing the fort at Dolebury, before telling us that finds have shown the site was occupied in the Stone Age, millennia before the fort appeared, and then, in the same sentence, telling us about Roman finds. Chronological ordering might be better. I wonder if everything from the first paragraph in this section, except the first sentence, should be moved to the third paragraph. It seems more logical to say "there is a hill fort here. Hill forts are .... and emerged ... The hill fort at Dolebury emerged ... and is[description]". Then, you could also put the stone age and bronze age information right at the beginning of the sub-section. Bivallate and Rampart should be linked (I think Hill fort has a section called "types of hillfort")
Seems fine to me, although if you know who owned the land at the time, that might be a useful thing to add. Is there any information about roughly when it became used for warrening, or when the population declined after the Romans left?
Seem fine in that everything is in chronological order, but the first paragraph seems a bit short. Perhaps it's worth putting it in context first: "By 1830, a three story building, believed to the warreners house and a watch tower, was in ruins. The Warren was visisted ..." Do we know who bought the land in 1906? Do we know who the NT acquired the land from in 1983? I wonder if the mention of the Limestone Link path fits in the history section - perhaps the "Geology and location" section? Is it used for anything at all now? (e.g. grazing) Is there any conservation work ongoing/has there been any major conservation projects there?
I am not an expert, but this section seems fine to me.
All look reliable and all URLs have access dates. (Also, nice to see a shout out to Time Team!)
This is a well-researched article about a topic which has relatively little coverage outside of local history and archaeology books. I see no reason why, with changes, this article should not reach GA standard. Well done,— Noswall59 ( talk) 13:46, 28 January 2015 (UTC).
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This article, which I'm trying to get towards GA status, currently uses the SSSI infobox although the historic site one might be more appropriate as the Iron Age hillfort is probably the most significant feature - what do you think?— Rod talk 08:41, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
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Please see below for detailed comments and suggestions for improvement.
The lead is short, but it does cover everything and I am happy with it.
Do you have a reference for it being known "natively" as Dolebury Warren? In the lead, it is "Dolebury Warren (aka Camp)" yet in the infobox it seems the other way round.
I have looked at articles on similar topics which have reached GA, including your article on
Solsbury Hill, and wonder whether this could be added; if so, then it should be (I accept that there may not be sources for it).
Brief, but it does give a topographical overview. As mentioned below, the path sentence about the Limestone Link path could be moved here. In the lead and ecology sections, you briefly mention the "differing soil types". Is there anything that could be included in this section to elaborate on that?
General points:
While all the content is here, I feel that this subsection is a bit confused in its ordering. You start by describing the hillfort as it is now and telling us that the site has been occupied since the Iron Age. You tell us about these forts in general, then you go back to describing the fort at Dolebury, before telling us that finds have shown the site was occupied in the Stone Age, millennia before the fort appeared, and then, in the same sentence, telling us about Roman finds. Chronological ordering might be better. I wonder if everything from the first paragraph in this section, except the first sentence, should be moved to the third paragraph. It seems more logical to say "there is a hill fort here. Hill forts are .... and emerged ... The hill fort at Dolebury emerged ... and is[description]". Then, you could also put the stone age and bronze age information right at the beginning of the sub-section. Bivallate and Rampart should be linked (I think Hill fort has a section called "types of hillfort")
Seems fine to me, although if you know who owned the land at the time, that might be a useful thing to add. Is there any information about roughly when it became used for warrening, or when the population declined after the Romans left?
Seem fine in that everything is in chronological order, but the first paragraph seems a bit short. Perhaps it's worth putting it in context first: "By 1830, a three story building, believed to the warreners house and a watch tower, was in ruins. The Warren was visisted ..." Do we know who bought the land in 1906? Do we know who the NT acquired the land from in 1983? I wonder if the mention of the Limestone Link path fits in the history section - perhaps the "Geology and location" section? Is it used for anything at all now? (e.g. grazing) Is there any conservation work ongoing/has there been any major conservation projects there?
I am not an expert, but this section seems fine to me.
All look reliable and all URLs have access dates. (Also, nice to see a shout out to Time Team!)
This is a well-researched article about a topic which has relatively little coverage outside of local history and archaeology books. I see no reason why, with changes, this article should not reach GA standard. Well done,— Noswall59 ( talk) 13:46, 28 January 2015 (UTC).
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