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No matter the Princess had died before 2022,the king should be stated as Charles III not Charles prince of wales in the page of the marriage status of the late princess. Him9 ( talk) 10:23, 2 September 2023 (UTC)
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At the end of the first paragraph of the section Finances please change: "The ownership of Diana's wedding dress was also given to her sons." to "Diana's wedding dress was also given to her sons.", or, even better "Her wedding dress was also given to her sons. Thank you 76.14.122.5 ( talk) 06:07, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
I think it is time to bring this article to GA status because it has the potential. I wanted to leave a message here first before starting the nomination process to see if anyone has any objections before a formal review. Keivan.f Talk 22:47, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
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I'll review this article, expect first comments either today or tomorrow. Glad to see this at GAN, as I'd worked on
Charles III in March–May. Pinging
Keivan.f as ChristieBot can have a delay sometimes. Will be using the following table.
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@ Keivan.f, not had much time recently. Will look in tomorrow and try to barrel through as much stuff as possible. Sorry about that, I know how frustrating it can be to have a review drag on forever. I've not forgotten about this, though. Tim O'Doherty ( talk) 22:19, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
@ Keivan.f - I've gone ahead and copyedited the article myself. It's quicker and easier that way, rather than me typing out everything and waiting for you to do it, I thought I'd just do it myself: feel free to undo anything you disagree with. Passing everything now. Tim O'Doherty ( talk) 12:59, 29 October 2023 (UTC)
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Alright, you're going to hate me for the next ones:
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Again, really sorry for these. Take as much time as you need to fix them, because I know from experience working on big hodge-podge articles like Charles III and Liz Truss that fixing hundreds of news and web refs takes a lot of time and is tedious and fiddly to do. This article will be a melting pot of different editor's ref styles, and I don't envy the guy that has to straighten them out. Once this is done, that'll be the hard bit over. Tim O'Doherty ( talk) 22:42, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
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My view that it could still be stripped down a bit more, but that's my opinion and not MoS policy, and this is GAN not FAC anyway. Pass. | |
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For an article on this subject, good to see it's not written as mistily-eyed as it could be. Both viewpoints are nicely evenly-covered. Pass. | |
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Everything else looks decent to me. If the above images are removed, there'll be quite a few stretches of imageless test: you could move some of the existing images around to make up for that.
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There is a grammatical error for Diana, Princess of Wales. In the privacy and legal issues section. Spritejhope ( talk) 00:26, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
In response to the 08:50, 19 November 2023 revert by user @ DrKay - please reconsider. The current text in the article does not accurately reflect her actual title at time of death as it was revised by the Palace in 1996 upon her divorce. Source: https://www.royal.uk/diana-princess-wales
If there was a particular part of my edit you found excessive I can edit it. But it should be accurate and it is not currently. SassyMay ( talk) 09:52, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
ETA - thank you @ DrKay for reinstating the correct title. Curious though why you didn't also keep the source reference? Isn't it better to have citations? — Preceding unsigned comment added by SassyMay ( talk • contribs) 10:13, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
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No matter the Princess had died before 2022,the king should be stated as Charles III not Charles prince of wales in the page of the marriage status of the late princess. Him9 ( talk) 10:23, 2 September 2023 (UTC)
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At the end of the first paragraph of the section Finances please change: "The ownership of Diana's wedding dress was also given to her sons." to "Diana's wedding dress was also given to her sons.", or, even better "Her wedding dress was also given to her sons. Thank you 76.14.122.5 ( talk) 06:07, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
I think it is time to bring this article to GA status because it has the potential. I wanted to leave a message here first before starting the nomination process to see if anyone has any objections before a formal review. Keivan.f Talk 22:47, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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Reviewer: Tim O'Doherty ( talk · contribs) 16:53, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
I'll review this article, expect first comments either today or tomorrow. Glad to see this at GAN, as I'd worked on
Charles III in March–May. Pinging
Keivan.f as ChristieBot can have a delay sometimes. Will be using the following table.
Tim O'Doherty (
talk) 16:53, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
@ Keivan.f, not had much time recently. Will look in tomorrow and try to barrel through as much stuff as possible. Sorry about that, I know how frustrating it can be to have a review drag on forever. I've not forgotten about this, though. Tim O'Doherty ( talk) 22:19, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
@ Keivan.f - I've gone ahead and copyedited the article myself. It's quicker and easier that way, rather than me typing out everything and waiting for you to do it, I thought I'd just do it myself: feel free to undo anything you disagree with. Passing everything now. Tim O'Doherty ( talk) 12:59, 29 October 2023 (UTC)
Rate | Attribute | Review Comment |
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1. Well-written: | ||
1a. the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct. |
Lead
Early life
Personal life
Subject of U.S. government surveillance
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1b. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation. |
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2. Verifiable with no original research: | ||
2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline. |
Alright, you're going to hate me for the next ones:
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2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose). |
Again, really sorry for these. Take as much time as you need to fix them, because I know from experience working on big hodge-podge articles like Charles III and Liz Truss that fixing hundreds of news and web refs takes a lot of time and is tedious and fiddly to do. This article will be a melting pot of different editor's ref styles, and I don't envy the guy that has to straighten them out. Once this is done, that'll be the hard bit over. Tim O'Doherty ( talk) 22:42, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
Some more comments re sources:
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2c. it contains no original research. | ||
2d. it contains no copyright violations or plagiarism. |
Per Earwig, reword the following phrases:
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3. Broad in its coverage: | ||
3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic. |
Nothing that I know of Diana's life not adequately mentioned. | |
3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style). |
My view that it could still be stripped down a bit more, but that's my opinion and not MoS policy, and this is GAN not FAC anyway. Pass. | |
4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each. |
For an article on this subject, good to see it's not written as mistily-eyed as it could be. Both viewpoints are nicely evenly-covered. Pass. | |
5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute. |
No edit wars. Text doesn't change much except from the results of the GA suggestions. | |
6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio: | ||
6a. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content. |
Everything else looks decent to me. If the above images are removed, there'll be quite a few stretches of imageless test: you could move some of the existing images around to make up for that.
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6b. media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions. |
Captions
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7. Overall assessment. |
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There is a grammatical error for Diana, Princess of Wales. In the privacy and legal issues section. Spritejhope ( talk) 00:26, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
In response to the 08:50, 19 November 2023 revert by user @ DrKay - please reconsider. The current text in the article does not accurately reflect her actual title at time of death as it was revised by the Palace in 1996 upon her divorce. Source: https://www.royal.uk/diana-princess-wales
If there was a particular part of my edit you found excessive I can edit it. But it should be accurate and it is not currently. SassyMay ( talk) 09:52, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
ETA - thank you @ DrKay for reinstating the correct title. Curious though why you didn't also keep the source reference? Isn't it better to have citations? — Preceding unsigned comment added by SassyMay ( talk • contribs) 10:13, 19 November 2023 (UTC)