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Doesn't it seem like "(Mahler)" or some variant thereof should be in the title? The lead-in suggests that this article is about Des Knaben Wunderhorn. The title suggests that the article is about the familiar singers' standard-rep collection Lieder aus "Des Knaben Wunderhorn" (i.e. the twelve Humoresken--what DrG will hear if he goes to a concert with "Mahler, Songs from 'Des Knaben Wunderhorn'" listed). And the body is about Mahler's use of use of Des Knaben Wunderhorn throughout much of his life.
In fact, Mahler's interaction with the Arnim and Brentano collection (beyond just the Humoresken) is a fascinating, important, and much written-about subject. The musicologist Donald Mitchell has written a 500-page book on Mahler's "Wunderhorn years" alone. (Donald Mitchell, Gustav Mahler: The Wunderhorn Years, Woodbridge: Boydell Press, 2005)
Perhaps this article should be refactored to help DrG and the many others who are naturally and understandably confused by the whole issue. Conkle ( talk) 23:04, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
Is someone with good German going to translate the titles of the songs in the first two volumes shown in the article? I'd have a go myself, but I doubt that my schoolboy German is up to it! -- Mike H.
This article is still very confusing. If I went to a performance of this work, what should I expect to hear? You can't tell by reading this article. DrG 16:55, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
I get German folk poetry from this Mokaiba11 ( talk) 05:36, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
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Doesn't it seem like "(Mahler)" or some variant thereof should be in the title? The lead-in suggests that this article is about Des Knaben Wunderhorn. The title suggests that the article is about the familiar singers' standard-rep collection Lieder aus "Des Knaben Wunderhorn" (i.e. the twelve Humoresken--what DrG will hear if he goes to a concert with "Mahler, Songs from 'Des Knaben Wunderhorn'" listed). And the body is about Mahler's use of use of Des Knaben Wunderhorn throughout much of his life.
In fact, Mahler's interaction with the Arnim and Brentano collection (beyond just the Humoresken) is a fascinating, important, and much written-about subject. The musicologist Donald Mitchell has written a 500-page book on Mahler's "Wunderhorn years" alone. (Donald Mitchell, Gustav Mahler: The Wunderhorn Years, Woodbridge: Boydell Press, 2005)
Perhaps this article should be refactored to help DrG and the many others who are naturally and understandably confused by the whole issue. Conkle ( talk) 23:04, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
Is someone with good German going to translate the titles of the songs in the first two volumes shown in the article? I'd have a go myself, but I doubt that my schoolboy German is up to it! -- Mike H.
This article is still very confusing. If I went to a performance of this work, what should I expect to hear? You can't tell by reading this article. DrG 16:55, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
I get German folk poetry from this Mokaiba11 ( talk) 05:36, 26 July 2011 (UTC)