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This story in Slate explains Friedman's bankruptcy work for Trump, and links to other WP:RS such as Fortune and Politico.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/12/16/david_friedman_israel_ambassador_pick_helped_trump_with_casino_debt.html
Trump’s Extremist Israel Ambassador Pick Is a Bankruptcy Lawyer Who Helped Him Pull One of His Greatest Scams
By Ben Mathis-Lilley
Slate
Dec. 16 2016
(Trump Hotels & Casino Resorts lost money every year and went bankrupt in 2004, with total 1995–2004 losses of $647 million. But it paid Donald Trump millions of dollars, by buying, for example, "Trump Ice" brand bottled water. Friedman, representing Trump, filed for bankruptcy and negotiated with creditors.) --
Nbauman (
talk) 19:25, 17 December 2016 (UTC)
I'm deleting this entire paragraph: "He has published articles and lectured on novel and complex areas of bankruptcy law. Since the inception of its publication, David has been ranked in Chambers USA as one of the "Leading Individuals" in the United States in Bankruptcy/Restructuring. Chambers USA describes Mr. Friedman as “a great talent and a force to be reckoned with,” “a deal-making bankruptcy lawyer but also a very good trial lawyer,” and recognized his “unique combination of skills.” He is also recognized by Chambers Global, which refers to David as "the man you want on your side when you are undermanned and outmaneuvered - he's an extraordinary fighter." He is perennially listed as one of The Best Lawyers in America in New York and as one of the top bankruptcy lawyers in the United States in the K&A Restructuring Register. David has been profiled by Law360 as a Bankruptcy MVP, described as “among the very top tier of bankruptcy lawyers.” In 2007 and 2008, Lawdragon named him one of the 500 leading lawyers in the United States. David has also been recognized in New York Metro Super Lawyers 2006 – 2016 and was the subject of a featured article in the 2011 edition. He has been distinguished as one of Avenue Magazine’s “Legal Elite,” listed as a local and national "litigation star” by Benchmark Litigation 2013-2015, listed as a “leading lawyer” by IFLR 1000 2013, 2014 and 2015, and highlighted by The Legal 500 in 2014 and 2015 in the area of Finance: Corporate Restructuring.[6]" It's not written in a neutral tone and it's irrelevant. The only source provided is Friedman's own biography, so it is obviously promotional material. Werónika ( talk) 03:22, 25 December 2016 (UTC)
I was recently warned by RolandR ( talk) not to edit this page because it is subject to active arbitration. Since RolandR has neglected to tag this page with the arbitration warning (like that on the obviously Arab-Israeli conflict page Hamas) I was wondering if a future tagging was planned? Personally, I think it is overbroad to tag a page for the chosen American Ambassador to Israel as a page related to the Arab-Israeli conflict. I checked other similar pages ( Talk:Daniel B. Shapiro, Talk:United States Ambassador to Israel), and they were, as yet, untagged.
Furthermore, I found the content of RolandR's warning bewildering. Among other things, he wrote that my edit contains "speculative or unconfirmed information about a future event." My edit expanded upon a previously existing paragraph regarding the discussed embassy relocation. The paragraph was not neutral because it discussed the "contradiction to longstanding U.S. policy under both Democratic and Republican presidents," without mentioning the relevant law. I attempted to correct this imbalance and provide a broader context. Me edit is below:
The relocation would, however, be in accordance with the controversial [[Jerusalem Embassy Act]], passed by Congress in 1995, which requires the relocation of the embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. Since its passing, the executive branch has consistently suspended any action under the waiver power of the act. |
I believe this edit should be added. I just can't see how a law that directly contradicts longstanding US executive policy is "speculative or unconfirmed information." It already appears on Wikipedia in Jerusalem Embassy Act and can be found here [1] as well: Avisnacks ( talk) 08:08, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
Unsupported References? The reference for the neighborhood as an "Arab neighborhood" is http://www.haaretz.com/world-news/u-s-election-2016/1.752378 but that article does not include the term. Is there a published article that does? MichelleInSanMarcos ( talk) 14:00, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
oops! the reference section has errors in naming, and when I used the Cite tool, some of the references in personal life get re-numbered. I was unsuccessful in doing a manual revert to the original article. MichelleInSanMarcos ( talk) 14:57, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
I deleted several unsourced claims and added some new ones to this page:
Werónika ( talk) 07:23, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
Friedman is not officially the ambassador until he actually goes to Israel and presents his credentials source. For instance, Daniel B. Shapiro was sworn in on July 8, 2011, but he was not officially the ambassador until he presented his credentials on August 3. That's the way we did it for all previous ambassadors. Werónika ( talk) 16:31, 30 March 2017 (UTC)
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An editor recently reverted an effort I made to include information related to the ambassador's past charitable efforts that also relate to his role as ambassador to Israel. Here's the diff. The argument was made that this was already covered in the "Nomination" section, although not all of it was.
But the key question I want to bring up here is about how to structure the article.
In my view these matters make the most sense in chronological order of when he did this work and not just to place it under the "Nomination" section. The nomination is clearly the point when his past work became of interest to the media. But it's confusing to have it placed in the nomination section.
What do folks think? Do we put it all under the nomination section? Do we place these materials under "Early career and Trump presidential campaign" as I had done? Or do we create a section on his charitable work that preceded the Trump campaign? [[PPX]] ( talk) 21:29, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
@ Perplexed566: Sorry for the late reply. I think we should put it under the 'early career' section; I don't think it's notable enough to deserve its own section. And we can mention it again since it was brought up with his nomination. Woebegone ( talk) 00:54, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
Hebrew Wikipedia gives his DOB as August 8, 1958, but I haven't found any sources yet. Can anyone join in trying to find one? RM ( talk) 21:42, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
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This story in Slate explains Friedman's bankruptcy work for Trump, and links to other WP:RS such as Fortune and Politico.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/12/16/david_friedman_israel_ambassador_pick_helped_trump_with_casino_debt.html
Trump’s Extremist Israel Ambassador Pick Is a Bankruptcy Lawyer Who Helped Him Pull One of His Greatest Scams
By Ben Mathis-Lilley
Slate
Dec. 16 2016
(Trump Hotels & Casino Resorts lost money every year and went bankrupt in 2004, with total 1995–2004 losses of $647 million. But it paid Donald Trump millions of dollars, by buying, for example, "Trump Ice" brand bottled water. Friedman, representing Trump, filed for bankruptcy and negotiated with creditors.) --
Nbauman (
talk) 19:25, 17 December 2016 (UTC)
I'm deleting this entire paragraph: "He has published articles and lectured on novel and complex areas of bankruptcy law. Since the inception of its publication, David has been ranked in Chambers USA as one of the "Leading Individuals" in the United States in Bankruptcy/Restructuring. Chambers USA describes Mr. Friedman as “a great talent and a force to be reckoned with,” “a deal-making bankruptcy lawyer but also a very good trial lawyer,” and recognized his “unique combination of skills.” He is also recognized by Chambers Global, which refers to David as "the man you want on your side when you are undermanned and outmaneuvered - he's an extraordinary fighter." He is perennially listed as one of The Best Lawyers in America in New York and as one of the top bankruptcy lawyers in the United States in the K&A Restructuring Register. David has been profiled by Law360 as a Bankruptcy MVP, described as “among the very top tier of bankruptcy lawyers.” In 2007 and 2008, Lawdragon named him one of the 500 leading lawyers in the United States. David has also been recognized in New York Metro Super Lawyers 2006 – 2016 and was the subject of a featured article in the 2011 edition. He has been distinguished as one of Avenue Magazine’s “Legal Elite,” listed as a local and national "litigation star” by Benchmark Litigation 2013-2015, listed as a “leading lawyer” by IFLR 1000 2013, 2014 and 2015, and highlighted by The Legal 500 in 2014 and 2015 in the area of Finance: Corporate Restructuring.[6]" It's not written in a neutral tone and it's irrelevant. The only source provided is Friedman's own biography, so it is obviously promotional material. Werónika ( talk) 03:22, 25 December 2016 (UTC)
I was recently warned by RolandR ( talk) not to edit this page because it is subject to active arbitration. Since RolandR has neglected to tag this page with the arbitration warning (like that on the obviously Arab-Israeli conflict page Hamas) I was wondering if a future tagging was planned? Personally, I think it is overbroad to tag a page for the chosen American Ambassador to Israel as a page related to the Arab-Israeli conflict. I checked other similar pages ( Talk:Daniel B. Shapiro, Talk:United States Ambassador to Israel), and they were, as yet, untagged.
Furthermore, I found the content of RolandR's warning bewildering. Among other things, he wrote that my edit contains "speculative or unconfirmed information about a future event." My edit expanded upon a previously existing paragraph regarding the discussed embassy relocation. The paragraph was not neutral because it discussed the "contradiction to longstanding U.S. policy under both Democratic and Republican presidents," without mentioning the relevant law. I attempted to correct this imbalance and provide a broader context. Me edit is below:
The relocation would, however, be in accordance with the controversial [[Jerusalem Embassy Act]], passed by Congress in 1995, which requires the relocation of the embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. Since its passing, the executive branch has consistently suspended any action under the waiver power of the act. |
I believe this edit should be added. I just can't see how a law that directly contradicts longstanding US executive policy is "speculative or unconfirmed information." It already appears on Wikipedia in Jerusalem Embassy Act and can be found here [1] as well: Avisnacks ( talk) 08:08, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
Unsupported References? The reference for the neighborhood as an "Arab neighborhood" is http://www.haaretz.com/world-news/u-s-election-2016/1.752378 but that article does not include the term. Is there a published article that does? MichelleInSanMarcos ( talk) 14:00, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
oops! the reference section has errors in naming, and when I used the Cite tool, some of the references in personal life get re-numbered. I was unsuccessful in doing a manual revert to the original article. MichelleInSanMarcos ( talk) 14:57, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
I deleted several unsourced claims and added some new ones to this page:
Werónika ( talk) 07:23, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
Friedman is not officially the ambassador until he actually goes to Israel and presents his credentials source. For instance, Daniel B. Shapiro was sworn in on July 8, 2011, but he was not officially the ambassador until he presented his credentials on August 3. That's the way we did it for all previous ambassadors. Werónika ( talk) 16:31, 30 March 2017 (UTC)
References
{{
cite web}}
: Check date values in: |date=
(
help)
An editor recently reverted an effort I made to include information related to the ambassador's past charitable efforts that also relate to his role as ambassador to Israel. Here's the diff. The argument was made that this was already covered in the "Nomination" section, although not all of it was.
But the key question I want to bring up here is about how to structure the article.
In my view these matters make the most sense in chronological order of when he did this work and not just to place it under the "Nomination" section. The nomination is clearly the point when his past work became of interest to the media. But it's confusing to have it placed in the nomination section.
What do folks think? Do we put it all under the nomination section? Do we place these materials under "Early career and Trump presidential campaign" as I had done? Or do we create a section on his charitable work that preceded the Trump campaign? [[PPX]] ( talk) 21:29, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
@ Perplexed566: Sorry for the late reply. I think we should put it under the 'early career' section; I don't think it's notable enough to deserve its own section. And we can mention it again since it was brought up with his nomination. Woebegone ( talk) 00:54, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
Hebrew Wikipedia gives his DOB as August 8, 1958, but I haven't found any sources yet. Can anyone join in trying to find one? RM ( talk) 21:42, 14 August 2017 (UTC)