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The section currently reads: "The day the newspaper story first ran, Garrison aide Lou Ivon stated that Ferrie telephoned him to say: "You know what this news story does to me, don't you. I'm a dead man. From here on, believe me, I'm a dead man...."[37]" It is completely unclear what news story is being referred to. Implicitly it is a story of Ferrie's death, but then we are told of Ferrie's responding to it, so safe to assume that was not its subject. I don't have a copy of the book handy, hopefully someone can fix this. Surely there should be at least another sentence to contextualize this claim, or the sentences should be removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.168.36.93 ( talk) 09:08, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
David William Ferrie was an unusual person, probably misunderstood by many people. I was always interested in history and US presidents, and this took me into an interest in JFK and his assassination. I gravitated to an interest in the New Orleans aspects and this led to David Ferrie. I tried to chronologize the printed info about him, but a lot of this was unreliable. With the intent of "getting the goods" on him, I started collecting all available documents about him, and contacting people who knew him. I am about halfway through a book on Ferrie and am also working on a film about him.
There are two ways to look at him. In the traditional view, he was a villain, a man with CIA and organized crime connections who manipulated Lee Harvey Oswald in some way, resulting in JFK's death. But from those who knew him (and from documents), a counter-history emerges, of a much more complex man who felt that a chance crossing of paths with Oswald in 1955 led to false stories about him. In my study, I consider evidence relating to both views.
What do you think about David Ferrie? I would love to hear from any who knew him. — 64.12.116.5 11:24, 7 July 2005 (UTC)
How did all this information get posted regarding Ferrie's possible involvement in the so-called conspiracy against JFK? This is ridiculous. There is no citation given. All info related to JFK should be removed until citation is given. Garrison was someone that can not be taken seriously since he has been discredited. Oliver Stone makes movies and admitst that this film was not a documentary and he played fast and loose with the facts. I request removal of this nonsense. Jtpaladin 16:59, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
All of the information in the article related to allegations against Ferrie is accurately stated:. for the most part, "Jack Martin alleged that..."
To a certian degree I agree with the fact there is no citation, however most of the citations can be handled by reading "On the Trail of the Assassins" by Jisim Garrison, which by the way neither the book nor he has been discredited (it is difficult for a discredited person to be elected appealb s court judge ionn new orleans until the day he dies). Let justice be done though the heavens fall 22:01, 13 March 2007 (UTC) ……dorothy kilgallen learned of a meeting at Jack Ruby's club two weeks before the assassination, at which were present J.D. Tippett, the man who placed the JFK Wanted For Treason in the newspaper, a businessman and a fourth man whom she called the ferry man. Surely that proves beyond a shadow of doubt that there was, to put it mildly, something behind the curtains
I have removed the anonymously added text, "Subsequent investigations have failed to link Ferrie to any direct involvement in the assassination or to an association with Oswald during his time in New Orleans" and added documentation of the investigative record of the Ferrie-Oswald connection. Joegoodfriend 20:41, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
"In 1978, William Gaudet, a twenty-year CIA veteran…"
Perhaps it should be mentioned that the House Select Committee on Assassinations reviewed Gaudet's CIA file, but found no record reflecting any contact between him and the CIA after 1961. A CIA memorandum from 1976 said that,
The Domestic Collections Division (DCD) has an inactive file on William George Gaudet, former editor and publisher of the Latin American Report. The file shows that Gaudet was a source of the New Orleans DCD (Domestic Contacts Division) Resident Office from 1948 to 1955 during which period he provided foreign intelligence information on Latin American political and economic conditions resulting from his extensive travel in South and Central America in pursuit of journalistic interests. The file further indicates that Gaudet was a casual contact of the New Orleans Office between 1955 and 1961, when, at various times, he furnished fragmentary intelligence.
The implication of "twenty-year CIA veteran" overstates Gaudet's relationship. I recommend, "an informant to the CIA between 1948 and 1961" or "a CIA domestic contact between 1948 and 1961."
Gaudet testified in a deposition for the HSCA in 1978 that he had never met Oswald, although he had known of him prior to the assassination because Oswald had distributed literature near his office. Gaudet also stated that on one occasion he saw Oswald speaking to Guy Banister on a street corner. As to what he told author Anthony Summers in 1977, here is what Summers wrote,
For a man who declared himself plagued by mere coincidence, William Gaudet was strangely knowledgeable. While denying any involvement in the Oswald visit to Mexico, he made one remarkable admission. He said he had "known" Oswald in New Orleans. This once said, Gaudet quickly adjusted his statement, insisting now that he had merely observed Oswald handing out leaflets in the street, on several occasions, but always fleetingly. (Not in Your Lifetime, p. 266)
In his 1978 interview with Summers, Gaudet repeats what he told the HSCA, that he once saw Oswald talking with Banister. He also says, without further explanation, "I suppose you are looking to Ferrie. He was with Oswald … " (ibid.) Whether that ellipsis mark means that Gaudet had more to say that wasn't included, or that Gaudet just trailed off and left the sentence uncompleted, is not explained. With Oswald in 1963, or when? Gaudet may have been referring to Ferrie's and Oswald's participation in the local Civil Air Patrol in the 1950s. In any case, nowhere does Summers quote or paraphrase Gaudet as saying that he knew David Ferrie, or that Ferrie, Oswald and Banister had a working relationship. — Walloon 05:02, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
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Mtracy9 ( talk) 20:48, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
As Ferrie has no notability outside his involvement in the Shaw trial. I suggest creating a new article called "Persons related to the Shaw trial" or something to that effect, and merging this article into it along with the ones on Russo, Bannister, Martin, etc. Any opposition? Ramsquire (throw me a line) 23:04, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
I contest that the words written or spoken by Jim Garrison are not an acceptable source given the lies contained in On the Trail of the Assassins (See http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/jimlie.htm) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 158.234.250.71 ( talk) 17:57, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
In fact, the only evidence for what you think "no one doubts" is Garrison't unsupported claims. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jmcadams1 ( talk • contribs) 03:25, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
Not only that, but without Jim Garrison, no one would have ever heard of David Ferrie (along with many others) and his connection to Oswald. So Garrison IS a prime source. He lost the Shaw trial but we all know he was onto something. He probably already found it and pieced it together until some broke part of the puzzle. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.28.93.188 ( talk) 04:43, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
"We all know he was on to something ... " BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA ... obviously the jury didn't. Dean Andrews, who started all the "Clay Bertrand" stuff with his BS, admitted on the stand it was BS; Perry Russo later said all his testimony was extracted via drugs and threats; when the Clinton witnesses were asked why they hadn't come forward in four years, they replied "nobody asked"; Garrison called a "sneak witness" who had his daughter fingerprinted when she went off to college lest somebody try to plant a ringer on him when she came back; and Jack Martin was so obviously bogus that Garrison didn't even TRY to use him in court. Open and shut case? Indeed. MrG 63.227.5.169 ( talk) 22:05, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
In several sentences of this article, editors state as facts, items that were recited in the HSCA appendix. This is problematic since these appendices are simply staff reports which were often contradicted by other reports. Many of these items were eventually deemed unworthy to put into the final report, while others were found to be false. For example although Ferrie did make some controversial comments about Kennedy at the MOWW speech, and was asked to leave the podium, they did allow him to finish the speech after he cooled down. Without that context, it travels close to the line of violating NPOV. Ramsquire (throw me a line) 17:06, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
I can't believe there is no mention about the book Mafia Kingfish, Ferrie is probably mentioned on at least 100 pages. He set Oswald up as the patsy for the JFK murder while working with Carlos Marcello. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.15.222.8 ( talk) 18:49, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
This article uses Garrison's book On the Train of the Assassins and his Playboy interview as sources. Garrison is absurdly unreliable on this case.
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/jimlie.htm
Note that latter-day Garrison supporters have pretty much tried to sanitize (by failing to discuss it) a lot of wild and wacky notions that Garrison had. But those notions reflect on his credibility:
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/jimloon1.htm http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/jimloon2.htm http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/jimloon3.htm http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/jimloon4.htm http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/jimloon5.htm
Nothing should be stated as a fact in the article unless a source much more reliable than Garrison confirms it.
John McAdams
Jim Marrs is a WP:FRINGE source, widely known as one who embraces any number of fringe theories on Bigfoot, 9/11, UFOs, etc. "The mainstream media has indeed tended to dismiss Marrs out of hand." (Contemporary Authors Online. Detroit: Gale, 2008) Until this author is demonstrated to have met WP:RS criteria and to not violate FRINGE criteria, I will be removing citations of him from the article. Traditionally on Wikipedia, the onus is on those who wish to add information to demonstrate its acceptability under Wikipedia policy. Gamaliel ( talk) 21:26, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
Regardless of Wikipedia guidelines, the fact is that this article is based almost entirely on the HSCA documents. That is a very one-sided presentation of events. There is a voluminous literature out there concerning the JFK assassination, including much information on David Ferrie. Some of it is wacky, some delusional, but also much of it is objective, intelligent discussion, even if at times it is at odds with the HSCA findings. Readers of an encyclopedia deserve to see all sides of an issue of this importance. For example, nowhere in this article is mention made of the fact that David Ferrie was a competent classical pianist, whose concerts were well received. This is important, because it provides insight into his character, intelligence, and talent. We should not gloss over the fact that he "got a job with Eastern Airlines," as if he landed a menial position changing tires at Goodyear. In fact, he was a Lockheed Constellation Captain, a remarkable achievement in aviation. The Constellation had four Wright 3350 engines, the most complex piston engines ever in mass production. The Constellation cockpit had hundreds of gauges, instruments, levers, switches, etc. with which the pilot had to be completely familiar, as well as being familiar with all the complex aircraft systems: hydraulic, electrical, pneumatic, etc. Not to mention the raw piloting talent required just to handle the airliner in all phases of flight. David Ferrie received excellent appraisals for his abilities, he was fired because in those years, you could not be publically gay. No mention is made also of his college degree or his PhD in psychology, although the latter was obtained from a non-accredited institution in Italy. Nevertheless, interesting information which serves to give a fuller portrait of the man. Someone who has the time should delve deeper into this most fascinating of all characters in the JFK saga and revise this article. 98.183.30.108 ( talk) 23:48, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for your confidence in me! Unfortunately I'm not skilled in editing Wikipedia, nor do I have the time to do this subject justice. Perhaps some other interested person may accomplish this. Thanks for your interest and response to my post. 98.183.30.108 ( talk) 22:37, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The article contains the following statement cited to Anthony Summers's book Not in Your Lifetime:
Should the above statement be included in the article? 05:25, 8 April 2017 (UTC)
The article contains the following statement cited to Anthony Summers' book Not in Your Lifetime:
Should the above statement be included in the article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Location ( talk • contribs) 00:18, 9 September 2017 (UTC)
The article previously included the statement that Joe Pesci's film portrayal of David Ferrie was 'critically acclaimed' and cited Daniel Hopsicker's Mad Cow Morning News website to support this. Hopsicker's website is emphatically not a reliable source, and Hopsicker is not any kind of film critic. I have removed the link. Rgr09 ( talk) 00:53, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
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The section currently reads: "The day the newspaper story first ran, Garrison aide Lou Ivon stated that Ferrie telephoned him to say: "You know what this news story does to me, don't you. I'm a dead man. From here on, believe me, I'm a dead man...."[37]" It is completely unclear what news story is being referred to. Implicitly it is a story of Ferrie's death, but then we are told of Ferrie's responding to it, so safe to assume that was not its subject. I don't have a copy of the book handy, hopefully someone can fix this. Surely there should be at least another sentence to contextualize this claim, or the sentences should be removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.168.36.93 ( talk) 09:08, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
David William Ferrie was an unusual person, probably misunderstood by many people. I was always interested in history and US presidents, and this took me into an interest in JFK and his assassination. I gravitated to an interest in the New Orleans aspects and this led to David Ferrie. I tried to chronologize the printed info about him, but a lot of this was unreliable. With the intent of "getting the goods" on him, I started collecting all available documents about him, and contacting people who knew him. I am about halfway through a book on Ferrie and am also working on a film about him.
There are two ways to look at him. In the traditional view, he was a villain, a man with CIA and organized crime connections who manipulated Lee Harvey Oswald in some way, resulting in JFK's death. But from those who knew him (and from documents), a counter-history emerges, of a much more complex man who felt that a chance crossing of paths with Oswald in 1955 led to false stories about him. In my study, I consider evidence relating to both views.
What do you think about David Ferrie? I would love to hear from any who knew him. — 64.12.116.5 11:24, 7 July 2005 (UTC)
How did all this information get posted regarding Ferrie's possible involvement in the so-called conspiracy against JFK? This is ridiculous. There is no citation given. All info related to JFK should be removed until citation is given. Garrison was someone that can not be taken seriously since he has been discredited. Oliver Stone makes movies and admitst that this film was not a documentary and he played fast and loose with the facts. I request removal of this nonsense. Jtpaladin 16:59, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
All of the information in the article related to allegations against Ferrie is accurately stated:. for the most part, "Jack Martin alleged that..."
To a certian degree I agree with the fact there is no citation, however most of the citations can be handled by reading "On the Trail of the Assassins" by Jisim Garrison, which by the way neither the book nor he has been discredited (it is difficult for a discredited person to be elected appealb s court judge ionn new orleans until the day he dies). Let justice be done though the heavens fall 22:01, 13 March 2007 (UTC) ……dorothy kilgallen learned of a meeting at Jack Ruby's club two weeks before the assassination, at which were present J.D. Tippett, the man who placed the JFK Wanted For Treason in the newspaper, a businessman and a fourth man whom she called the ferry man. Surely that proves beyond a shadow of doubt that there was, to put it mildly, something behind the curtains
I have removed the anonymously added text, "Subsequent investigations have failed to link Ferrie to any direct involvement in the assassination or to an association with Oswald during his time in New Orleans" and added documentation of the investigative record of the Ferrie-Oswald connection. Joegoodfriend 20:41, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
"In 1978, William Gaudet, a twenty-year CIA veteran…"
Perhaps it should be mentioned that the House Select Committee on Assassinations reviewed Gaudet's CIA file, but found no record reflecting any contact between him and the CIA after 1961. A CIA memorandum from 1976 said that,
The Domestic Collections Division (DCD) has an inactive file on William George Gaudet, former editor and publisher of the Latin American Report. The file shows that Gaudet was a source of the New Orleans DCD (Domestic Contacts Division) Resident Office from 1948 to 1955 during which period he provided foreign intelligence information on Latin American political and economic conditions resulting from his extensive travel in South and Central America in pursuit of journalistic interests. The file further indicates that Gaudet was a casual contact of the New Orleans Office between 1955 and 1961, when, at various times, he furnished fragmentary intelligence.
The implication of "twenty-year CIA veteran" overstates Gaudet's relationship. I recommend, "an informant to the CIA between 1948 and 1961" or "a CIA domestic contact between 1948 and 1961."
Gaudet testified in a deposition for the HSCA in 1978 that he had never met Oswald, although he had known of him prior to the assassination because Oswald had distributed literature near his office. Gaudet also stated that on one occasion he saw Oswald speaking to Guy Banister on a street corner. As to what he told author Anthony Summers in 1977, here is what Summers wrote,
For a man who declared himself plagued by mere coincidence, William Gaudet was strangely knowledgeable. While denying any involvement in the Oswald visit to Mexico, he made one remarkable admission. He said he had "known" Oswald in New Orleans. This once said, Gaudet quickly adjusted his statement, insisting now that he had merely observed Oswald handing out leaflets in the street, on several occasions, but always fleetingly. (Not in Your Lifetime, p. 266)
In his 1978 interview with Summers, Gaudet repeats what he told the HSCA, that he once saw Oswald talking with Banister. He also says, without further explanation, "I suppose you are looking to Ferrie. He was with Oswald … " (ibid.) Whether that ellipsis mark means that Gaudet had more to say that wasn't included, or that Gaudet just trailed off and left the sentence uncompleted, is not explained. With Oswald in 1963, or when? Gaudet may have been referring to Ferrie's and Oswald's participation in the local Civil Air Patrol in the 1950s. In any case, nowhere does Summers quote or paraphrase Gaudet as saying that he knew David Ferrie, or that Ferrie, Oswald and Banister had a working relationship. — Walloon 05:02, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
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Summers 1998 p. 233
was invoked but never defined (see the
help page).This section is not neutral unless it discusses Martin's history of mental illness and his retraction of his claims. Gamaliel ( talk) 00:29, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
Image:Ciravolo.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
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Mtracy9 ( talk) 20:48, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
As Ferrie has no notability outside his involvement in the Shaw trial. I suggest creating a new article called "Persons related to the Shaw trial" or something to that effect, and merging this article into it along with the ones on Russo, Bannister, Martin, etc. Any opposition? Ramsquire (throw me a line) 23:04, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
I contest that the words written or spoken by Jim Garrison are not an acceptable source given the lies contained in On the Trail of the Assassins (See http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/jimlie.htm) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 158.234.250.71 ( talk) 17:57, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
In fact, the only evidence for what you think "no one doubts" is Garrison't unsupported claims. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jmcadams1 ( talk • contribs) 03:25, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
Not only that, but without Jim Garrison, no one would have ever heard of David Ferrie (along with many others) and his connection to Oswald. So Garrison IS a prime source. He lost the Shaw trial but we all know he was onto something. He probably already found it and pieced it together until some broke part of the puzzle. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.28.93.188 ( talk) 04:43, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
"We all know he was on to something ... " BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA ... obviously the jury didn't. Dean Andrews, who started all the "Clay Bertrand" stuff with his BS, admitted on the stand it was BS; Perry Russo later said all his testimony was extracted via drugs and threats; when the Clinton witnesses were asked why they hadn't come forward in four years, they replied "nobody asked"; Garrison called a "sneak witness" who had his daughter fingerprinted when she went off to college lest somebody try to plant a ringer on him when she came back; and Jack Martin was so obviously bogus that Garrison didn't even TRY to use him in court. Open and shut case? Indeed. MrG 63.227.5.169 ( talk) 22:05, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
In several sentences of this article, editors state as facts, items that were recited in the HSCA appendix. This is problematic since these appendices are simply staff reports which were often contradicted by other reports. Many of these items were eventually deemed unworthy to put into the final report, while others were found to be false. For example although Ferrie did make some controversial comments about Kennedy at the MOWW speech, and was asked to leave the podium, they did allow him to finish the speech after he cooled down. Without that context, it travels close to the line of violating NPOV. Ramsquire (throw me a line) 17:06, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
I can't believe there is no mention about the book Mafia Kingfish, Ferrie is probably mentioned on at least 100 pages. He set Oswald up as the patsy for the JFK murder while working with Carlos Marcello. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.15.222.8 ( talk) 18:49, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
This article uses Garrison's book On the Train of the Assassins and his Playboy interview as sources. Garrison is absurdly unreliable on this case.
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/jimlie.htm
Note that latter-day Garrison supporters have pretty much tried to sanitize (by failing to discuss it) a lot of wild and wacky notions that Garrison had. But those notions reflect on his credibility:
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/jimloon1.htm http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/jimloon2.htm http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/jimloon3.htm http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/jimloon4.htm http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/jimloon5.htm
Nothing should be stated as a fact in the article unless a source much more reliable than Garrison confirms it.
John McAdams
Jim Marrs is a WP:FRINGE source, widely known as one who embraces any number of fringe theories on Bigfoot, 9/11, UFOs, etc. "The mainstream media has indeed tended to dismiss Marrs out of hand." (Contemporary Authors Online. Detroit: Gale, 2008) Until this author is demonstrated to have met WP:RS criteria and to not violate FRINGE criteria, I will be removing citations of him from the article. Traditionally on Wikipedia, the onus is on those who wish to add information to demonstrate its acceptability under Wikipedia policy. Gamaliel ( talk) 21:26, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
Regardless of Wikipedia guidelines, the fact is that this article is based almost entirely on the HSCA documents. That is a very one-sided presentation of events. There is a voluminous literature out there concerning the JFK assassination, including much information on David Ferrie. Some of it is wacky, some delusional, but also much of it is objective, intelligent discussion, even if at times it is at odds with the HSCA findings. Readers of an encyclopedia deserve to see all sides of an issue of this importance. For example, nowhere in this article is mention made of the fact that David Ferrie was a competent classical pianist, whose concerts were well received. This is important, because it provides insight into his character, intelligence, and talent. We should not gloss over the fact that he "got a job with Eastern Airlines," as if he landed a menial position changing tires at Goodyear. In fact, he was a Lockheed Constellation Captain, a remarkable achievement in aviation. The Constellation had four Wright 3350 engines, the most complex piston engines ever in mass production. The Constellation cockpit had hundreds of gauges, instruments, levers, switches, etc. with which the pilot had to be completely familiar, as well as being familiar with all the complex aircraft systems: hydraulic, electrical, pneumatic, etc. Not to mention the raw piloting talent required just to handle the airliner in all phases of flight. David Ferrie received excellent appraisals for his abilities, he was fired because in those years, you could not be publically gay. No mention is made also of his college degree or his PhD in psychology, although the latter was obtained from a non-accredited institution in Italy. Nevertheless, interesting information which serves to give a fuller portrait of the man. Someone who has the time should delve deeper into this most fascinating of all characters in the JFK saga and revise this article. 98.183.30.108 ( talk) 23:48, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for your confidence in me! Unfortunately I'm not skilled in editing Wikipedia, nor do I have the time to do this subject justice. Perhaps some other interested person may accomplish this. Thanks for your interest and response to my post. 98.183.30.108 ( talk) 22:37, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The article contains the following statement cited to Anthony Summers's book Not in Your Lifetime:
Should the above statement be included in the article? 05:25, 8 April 2017 (UTC)
The article contains the following statement cited to Anthony Summers' book Not in Your Lifetime:
Should the above statement be included in the article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Location ( talk • contribs) 00:18, 9 September 2017 (UTC)
The article previously included the statement that Joe Pesci's film portrayal of David Ferrie was 'critically acclaimed' and cited Daniel Hopsicker's Mad Cow Morning News website to support this. Hopsicker's website is emphatically not a reliable source, and Hopsicker is not any kind of film critic. I have removed the link. Rgr09 ( talk) 00:53, 25 May 2020 (UTC)