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Did anyone else read the article/watch the show and say, "Hey. This sounds a LOT like James Patterson's Maximum Ride series!" I mean, both of the main character's names are Max and they're both girls, they're both human experiments from a secret facility, they both have multiple 'brothers and sisters', they have strange names for people (ex. Fang[MR], Iggy[MR]. Sketchy[DA], Herbal Thought[DA]}, some of them have telekinetic powers (Like Angel[MR]), both are groups of runaways, both try to live normal lives, both have numbers for identification, both have something to do with angels (DA's title, MR's characters.), etc. I personally haven't watched the show... But from what I've gathered, it may not just be a coincidence. (BTW, DA premiered on Oct. 3, 2000 while MR debuted April 11, '05) 70.112.45.107 ( talk) 19:24, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
Yes Dark Angel was way before Patterson's stories. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.0.151.218 ( talk) 00:34, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
To the nitwit who keeps changing the information on the main page:
There is NO CONTROVERSY, as anyone living in America should know; but some clueless fans of the comic think Dark Angel was lifted from a cartoon called CyberSix, when in fact there was an X-Files episode with the same essential plot as Dark Angel, which aired in December, 1993 [1]. The X-Files episode was part of an on-going story-line about the military's use of eugenics (referencing all-to-real experiments by Nazi scientists, which were just part of the history of eugenics), human cloning, and generally experimenting with DNA; and it includes the plot element of an extra chromosome making the clones "super soldiers", which was also present in Dark Angel, but not CyberSix.
It is more accurate to say all three stories were based on real history and previous fiction about eugenics, cloning, and experimenting with DNA (The Island of Doctor Moreau, a Twilight Zone episode about eugenics, the work of Phillip K. Dick, Star Trek, and too many others to list here). It seems possible certain elements of Dark Angel were drawn from CyberSix, and unlikely the X-Files was inspired by CyberSix, but it is simply not accurate to say Dark Angel "plagiarized" CyberSix, any more than one modern vampire movie plagiarized another. Moreover, some of the particular elements of CyberSix were undoubtedly drawn from another animated series, Aeon Flux, which aired on Liquid Television at the time of CyberSix's genesis. Liquid television was critical for graphic artists, and the similarities are significant. Few writers have ever created anything entirely new, but most don't even realize when they borrow elements.
Dark Angel is a typical piece of science fiction – a dramatic vision of a possible distopian future. The plot is fictional, but based closely on actual science. Almost despite the plot, the show's success can be credited mainly to Jessica Alba, whose genetic composition seemed to embody the future of humanity. Thanks largely to science fiction, humanity is struggling to reject the path which leads to such a future. Unfortunately, science fiction can also beget or precede real science (e.g., Minority Report begetting Leap Motion); but what truly lies in store for humanity, even super soldiers, has proven thus far to be much more mundane, while equally fascinating. Most significantly, the series Fringe recently pushed the questions further, clearly drawing from all of the above; and actual science is gradually catching up with age-old science fiction; yet there is much more to be explored by science fiction writers and engineers alike. One of the significant advancements has been the subtle emergence of constant communication, with near hive-like awareness, which was one of the many elements of Dark Angel. Hopefully increased intelligence is also on the horizon, and hopefully humanity can handle it. Obviously the CyberSix fanclub could benefit from it greatly (dumb comic => dumb fanclub).
According to the Series (Episode 21, Seson 1) Max Guevara (X5-452) is an X5/599, Zack calls her this way, when he offers her a heart. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.178.145.224 ( talk) 18:56, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
X5-599 is Zack's code. He gives his code and says that he has a heart for her. —Preceding
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98.164.73.27 (
talk) 07:53, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
I appreciate it would be removing quite a chunk of the article, but it looks to me like the synopsis and overview are more or less redundant, the overview being a shortened synopsis. In addition, the Max Guevara article contains more or less the same text as the synopsis here (with some fixes I did yesterday to clean it up.) Should we remove the synopsis? -- Squiggleslash ( talk) 09:36, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
Story tag added for
"pussed out..."
71.231.162.174 ( talk) 14:27, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
You can remove that kind of thing yourself if you want! It appears to have been drive-by vandalism from a week or two ago. I've also removed the stuff about 9/11 and the "downplay" of the "post apocalyptic setting" because, honestly, I think it's rubbish. Whatever role 9/11 may have contributed (if any), I see no evidence the "terrorist-created post-pulse third-world US" scenario was in any way down-played. If someone wants to put it back, they're welcome, but they should probably cite something. -- Squiggleslash ( talk) 15:31, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
Is there any room for this bit of information? In Smallville episode 6.02, "Sneeze", Lex Luthor reveals a password as "Julian452". 452 could be a date, but in Smallville episode 7.09 we learn that Lex was actually doing experiments with his (dead) brother's DNA - and the 452 shines as a reference to Dark Angel. Albmont ( talk) 17:32, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
Or it could be 4 seasons and 52 weeks in a year (Julian calendar?) or 4 suits and 52 cards in a deck. Still, good catch... IF his brother's name was Julian. —Preceding
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216.49.77.67 (
talk) 06:41, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
Cybersix -- 201.255.59.78 ( talk) 07:38, 31 July 2008 (UTC) sorry just now i not loged, but don´t break my comment, do a little read of what i say and maybe U will see some simil, bye
Saying Dark Angel plagiarized CyberSix is ridiculous. These plot elements have been around since way before CyberSix. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.0.151.218 ( talk) 01:16, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
This line in Program scheduling regarding the show's cancellation that said:
"Joss Whedon's Firefly was ordered to series so FOX wouldn't have to pay for two big budget shows. Ironically, Firefly didn't last an entire season."
"So FOX wouldn't have to pay for two big budget shows" is not only unsourced, but there's almost a bitter tone to that statement. That's pretty much confirmed when the following sentence starts with "Ironically, Firefly didn't last an entire season." Ironic according to whom? And what's so ironic about a TV show not making it through an entire season? Happens all the time. In fact, some shows don't make it past an entire episode or even make it to the air at all. -- Whip it! Now whip it good! 02:39, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
I've recently been re-watching the Dark Angel Series and noticed a large number of minor characters in this series (at least 5 off the top of my head) are main characters in the reimagined Battlestar Galactica. There's got to be a connection, perhaps the same casting director or writers? I'm very curious what this connection is, and I think it would be relevant to this artical. 96.33.80.229 ( talk) 02:00, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
That article is still too short on its own and yet to be expanded. I need to hear your honest opinions, please. -- Gh87 ( talk) 21:57, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
Max's Motor Bike is? i like it very much does enetbodey know? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.180.214.15 ( talk) 12:36, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
I've had to remove the following award nominations from the article as they are currently unreferenced. Freikorp ( talk) 00:22, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
Event | Award | Nominee | Result |
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2001 Kids' Choice Awards | Favorite Rising Star | Jessica Alba | Nominated |
2002 Kids' Choice Awards | Favorite Female Butt Kicker | Jessica Alba | Nominated |
There are a lot of duplicate links in § Cast and characters. They are nowhere else in the article, so it seems deliberate, but I can't see why. Rather than delinking them, I thought I'd mention it here. Relentlessly ( talk) 22:42, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
As noted in the article, several episodes on the DVD contain optional commentary. In improving this article I have not utilised these potential sources. I mention this purely for the benefit of other editors who may wish to expand this article further in the future. Freikorp ( talk) 11:51, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
Just wanting to mention something interesting i've found that I may want to add to this article in the future. Sound warrior: Voice, music and power in Dark Angel - page 197. "As is noted in production interviews in the DVD set, the audience’s inability to categorise Alba’s ethnicity was considered to be a useful sf visual marker of post-racial futurity that helped to reinforce the diegetic notion of an imagined world less bound by racial distinction. Freikorp ( talk) 11:37, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: moved ( closed by non-admin page mover) DannyS712 ( talk) 21:09, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
– As multiple previous RMs have shown, country disambiguation is much more recognizable to readers than years. This isn't just theoretical, as I was specifically searching for the American TV series and even-though 2000 seemed a much more logical option, I didn't really know what year it was, only that it was "old". Gonnym ( talk) 19:59, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
It seems to be the theme section is citation of random people's opinion that's not pertinent to the show itself. There should be some type of standard by which to decide what sources to include and exclude. I think it would be best to include sources, and possibly further discussion from impactful news sources during that period discussing it, or of they interviewed experts, to include further points from them, even if in the future. Or, of there are comments from the author, director, producer, etc those self confessed themes are pertinent. However, currently there is too much random information within the section that are never addressed during or around the show. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.216.189.178 ( talk) 07:06, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
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Did anyone else read the article/watch the show and say, "Hey. This sounds a LOT like James Patterson's Maximum Ride series!" I mean, both of the main character's names are Max and they're both girls, they're both human experiments from a secret facility, they both have multiple 'brothers and sisters', they have strange names for people (ex. Fang[MR], Iggy[MR]. Sketchy[DA], Herbal Thought[DA]}, some of them have telekinetic powers (Like Angel[MR]), both are groups of runaways, both try to live normal lives, both have numbers for identification, both have something to do with angels (DA's title, MR's characters.), etc. I personally haven't watched the show... But from what I've gathered, it may not just be a coincidence. (BTW, DA premiered on Oct. 3, 2000 while MR debuted April 11, '05) 70.112.45.107 ( talk) 19:24, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
Yes Dark Angel was way before Patterson's stories. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.0.151.218 ( talk) 00:34, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
To the nitwit who keeps changing the information on the main page:
There is NO CONTROVERSY, as anyone living in America should know; but some clueless fans of the comic think Dark Angel was lifted from a cartoon called CyberSix, when in fact there was an X-Files episode with the same essential plot as Dark Angel, which aired in December, 1993 [1]. The X-Files episode was part of an on-going story-line about the military's use of eugenics (referencing all-to-real experiments by Nazi scientists, which were just part of the history of eugenics), human cloning, and generally experimenting with DNA; and it includes the plot element of an extra chromosome making the clones "super soldiers", which was also present in Dark Angel, but not CyberSix.
It is more accurate to say all three stories were based on real history and previous fiction about eugenics, cloning, and experimenting with DNA (The Island of Doctor Moreau, a Twilight Zone episode about eugenics, the work of Phillip K. Dick, Star Trek, and too many others to list here). It seems possible certain elements of Dark Angel were drawn from CyberSix, and unlikely the X-Files was inspired by CyberSix, but it is simply not accurate to say Dark Angel "plagiarized" CyberSix, any more than one modern vampire movie plagiarized another. Moreover, some of the particular elements of CyberSix were undoubtedly drawn from another animated series, Aeon Flux, which aired on Liquid Television at the time of CyberSix's genesis. Liquid television was critical for graphic artists, and the similarities are significant. Few writers have ever created anything entirely new, but most don't even realize when they borrow elements.
Dark Angel is a typical piece of science fiction – a dramatic vision of a possible distopian future. The plot is fictional, but based closely on actual science. Almost despite the plot, the show's success can be credited mainly to Jessica Alba, whose genetic composition seemed to embody the future of humanity. Thanks largely to science fiction, humanity is struggling to reject the path which leads to such a future. Unfortunately, science fiction can also beget or precede real science (e.g., Minority Report begetting Leap Motion); but what truly lies in store for humanity, even super soldiers, has proven thus far to be much more mundane, while equally fascinating. Most significantly, the series Fringe recently pushed the questions further, clearly drawing from all of the above; and actual science is gradually catching up with age-old science fiction; yet there is much more to be explored by science fiction writers and engineers alike. One of the significant advancements has been the subtle emergence of constant communication, with near hive-like awareness, which was one of the many elements of Dark Angel. Hopefully increased intelligence is also on the horizon, and hopefully humanity can handle it. Obviously the CyberSix fanclub could benefit from it greatly (dumb comic => dumb fanclub).
According to the Series (Episode 21, Seson 1) Max Guevara (X5-452) is an X5/599, Zack calls her this way, when he offers her a heart. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.178.145.224 ( talk) 18:56, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
X5-599 is Zack's code. He gives his code and says that he has a heart for her. —Preceding
unsigned comment added by
98.164.73.27 (
talk) 07:53, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
I appreciate it would be removing quite a chunk of the article, but it looks to me like the synopsis and overview are more or less redundant, the overview being a shortened synopsis. In addition, the Max Guevara article contains more or less the same text as the synopsis here (with some fixes I did yesterday to clean it up.) Should we remove the synopsis? -- Squiggleslash ( talk) 09:36, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
Story tag added for
"pussed out..."
71.231.162.174 ( talk) 14:27, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
You can remove that kind of thing yourself if you want! It appears to have been drive-by vandalism from a week or two ago. I've also removed the stuff about 9/11 and the "downplay" of the "post apocalyptic setting" because, honestly, I think it's rubbish. Whatever role 9/11 may have contributed (if any), I see no evidence the "terrorist-created post-pulse third-world US" scenario was in any way down-played. If someone wants to put it back, they're welcome, but they should probably cite something. -- Squiggleslash ( talk) 15:31, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
Is there any room for this bit of information? In Smallville episode 6.02, "Sneeze", Lex Luthor reveals a password as "Julian452". 452 could be a date, but in Smallville episode 7.09 we learn that Lex was actually doing experiments with his (dead) brother's DNA - and the 452 shines as a reference to Dark Angel. Albmont ( talk) 17:32, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
Or it could be 4 seasons and 52 weeks in a year (Julian calendar?) or 4 suits and 52 cards in a deck. Still, good catch... IF his brother's name was Julian. —Preceding
unsigned comment added by
216.49.77.67 (
talk) 06:41, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
Cybersix -- 201.255.59.78 ( talk) 07:38, 31 July 2008 (UTC) sorry just now i not loged, but don´t break my comment, do a little read of what i say and maybe U will see some simil, bye
Saying Dark Angel plagiarized CyberSix is ridiculous. These plot elements have been around since way before CyberSix. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.0.151.218 ( talk) 01:16, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
This line in Program scheduling regarding the show's cancellation that said:
"Joss Whedon's Firefly was ordered to series so FOX wouldn't have to pay for two big budget shows. Ironically, Firefly didn't last an entire season."
"So FOX wouldn't have to pay for two big budget shows" is not only unsourced, but there's almost a bitter tone to that statement. That's pretty much confirmed when the following sentence starts with "Ironically, Firefly didn't last an entire season." Ironic according to whom? And what's so ironic about a TV show not making it through an entire season? Happens all the time. In fact, some shows don't make it past an entire episode or even make it to the air at all. -- Whip it! Now whip it good! 02:39, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
I've recently been re-watching the Dark Angel Series and noticed a large number of minor characters in this series (at least 5 off the top of my head) are main characters in the reimagined Battlestar Galactica. There's got to be a connection, perhaps the same casting director or writers? I'm very curious what this connection is, and I think it would be relevant to this artical. 96.33.80.229 ( talk) 02:00, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
That article is still too short on its own and yet to be expanded. I need to hear your honest opinions, please. -- Gh87 ( talk) 21:57, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
Max's Motor Bike is? i like it very much does enetbodey know? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.180.214.15 ( talk) 12:36, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
I've had to remove the following award nominations from the article as they are currently unreferenced. Freikorp ( talk) 00:22, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
Event | Award | Nominee | Result |
---|---|---|---|
2001 Kids' Choice Awards | Favorite Rising Star | Jessica Alba | Nominated |
2002 Kids' Choice Awards | Favorite Female Butt Kicker | Jessica Alba | Nominated |
There are a lot of duplicate links in § Cast and characters. They are nowhere else in the article, so it seems deliberate, but I can't see why. Rather than delinking them, I thought I'd mention it here. Relentlessly ( talk) 22:42, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
As noted in the article, several episodes on the DVD contain optional commentary. In improving this article I have not utilised these potential sources. I mention this purely for the benefit of other editors who may wish to expand this article further in the future. Freikorp ( talk) 11:51, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
Just wanting to mention something interesting i've found that I may want to add to this article in the future. Sound warrior: Voice, music and power in Dark Angel - page 197. "As is noted in production interviews in the DVD set, the audience’s inability to categorise Alba’s ethnicity was considered to be a useful sf visual marker of post-racial futurity that helped to reinforce the diegetic notion of an imagined world less bound by racial distinction. Freikorp ( talk) 11:37, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
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At FAC, it was agreed that the information about alleged plagiarism should be removed on the grounds the sources did not meet the high quality benchmark for featured articles. IP edits have attempted to restore it back on multiple occasions, most recently with a couple new sources and an edit summary stating "It should be discussed at least if it is deletable again under this new form." This is a featured article, having been peer reviewed and accepted as among the best content on Wikipedia. As per Wikipedia:Featured article criteria, the standards for featured article are not just that the sources are reliable, but that they are also "high-quality". The old sources definitely do not make the high-quality benchmark, and the new ones don't appear to either. It's debated as to whether io9 even makes the minimum standards for a reliable source, let alone the high-quality for a featured article. See Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 22. And the Daily Radar wouldn't fill me with confidence even if it wasn't defunct. In order to maintain the integrity of the high-standards that featured articles should adhere to, I propose we remove this information immediately. Also just a word of advice for the person(s) trying to add this information: even if you do find a high-quality source, you still won't be able to use the lower quality ones alongside it - you'd only be able to cite what appears in the high-quality source. Freikorp ( talk) 04:57, 7 October 2017 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved ( closed by non-admin page mover) DannyS712 ( talk) 21:09, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
– As multiple previous RMs have shown, country disambiguation is much more recognizable to readers than years. This isn't just theoretical, as I was specifically searching for the American TV series and even-though 2000 seemed a much more logical option, I didn't really know what year it was, only that it was "old". Gonnym ( talk) 19:59, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
It seems to be the theme section is citation of random people's opinion that's not pertinent to the show itself. There should be some type of standard by which to decide what sources to include and exclude. I think it would be best to include sources, and possibly further discussion from impactful news sources during that period discussing it, or of they interviewed experts, to include further points from them, even if in the future. Or, of there are comments from the author, director, producer, etc those self confessed themes are pertinent. However, currently there is too much random information within the section that are never addressed during or around the show. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.216.189.178 ( talk) 07:06, 9 July 2021 (UTC)