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Dr yazeed essa murdered his wife with cyanide. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:8003:941B:B00:F9B5:31B4:DAEC:1A79 ( talk) 16:58, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
Cyanide poisoning may be deadly in minutes. Many people die on fires when they breath cyanide from smoke, especially from plastic materials. Cyanide poisoning may also occur from consumption of bitter almonds and from overdose of the drug nitroprussade! Antidotes for cyanide poisoning do exist and include hydroxocobalamin (a form of vitamin B12!) and also amyl nitrite(administered by inhalation), sodium nitrite, and sodium thiosulfate. 688dim ( talk) 22:46, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
Typically in spy films, the villainous henchman swallows a small cyanide pill, gasps, and then dies before James Bond can pump him for information. How realistic is this? How much cyanide would be needed to have a movie-style effect, e.g. almost-instant death, with just enough time for the villain to say "the loot is hidden... castle... Velma! (gasp)". - Ashley Pomeroy ( talk) 15:06, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
I am a medicine expert. Well, I do not know how you know these details. Are you a toxicologist/pathologist/coroner/forensic scientist? In fact I am not sure about the timing of the events you refer above. In practice, the most common cause of cyanide poisoning is to breath smoke of burned plastic, so fire victims may suffocate from cyanide. It actually has 200 times higher affinity for hemoglobin and displaces oxygen from it, so we have tissue hypoxia. Thats the important and not the chronological symptoms that may not occur in that sequence. 688dim ( talk) 21:34, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
Can anyone verify that cyanide actually causes death by interrupting the electron transport chain? From what I've read and heard, it actually permanently binds to hemoglobin and effectively asphyxiates the victim. A quick google search of 'hemoglobin' and 'cyanide' returned multiple results claiming that this was the actual cause of cyanide death (Except for the first result, which was actually a rip off of this page, except that it crashed firefox after loading.). 71.117.83.134 ( talk) 02:10, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
Adolf Hitler himself also bit a cyanide capsule while simultaneously firing his Walther PPK pistol into his right temple, but since a bullet is instantaneous, it can be assumed that the bullet actually caused his death.
The above is disputed by Ian Kershaw in "Hitler, 1936-1945: Nemesis". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.105.56.178 ( talk) 12:23, 21 January 2010 (UTC) dont trust wikipidea its fake! i got an F on my project im stressed i know —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.70.207.12 ( talk) 00:56, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
e. It has been placed here with intent to scare people out of consuming apricot kernels, whose ability to cure even terminal cancer have been documented time and time again. The FDA does not want people consuming apricot kernels because they fear that if people turn to highly effective alternative cancer treatments, their billion dollar industry of standard medicine (surgery, radiation, chemo) will go down the tubes. If cyanide poisoning were a real lethal threat, fruits like apples, watermelons, apricots, etc. would have warnings in supermarkets. If the FDA was truly concerned about your health, as they claim to be with regards to apricot kernels, then they would have already placed a ban on cigarettes and alcohol. I have read dozens of stories of people being cured from even TERMINAL cancers by apricot kernel consumption. Not once have I come across anyone with "cyanide poisoning" or death as a result of consumption. Now get this propaganda off this page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.241.151.200 ( talk) 21:11, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
As for your stories of people cured by apricot pits, save them for your collection of stories of ghosts and religious miracles. S B H arris 19:17, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
The fact that hydrogen cyanide has been used in judicial executions is mentioned twice, at the bottom of section 3 and in section 4.1. I think that these occurrences should be merged into section 4.1. The suicides of many Nazis is also mentioned twice, both at the bottom of section 3 and in section 4.3. I think that these should be merged into section 4.3. Does anybody else agree with me? Nutster ( talk) 12:56, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
Nope. Not cyanide, but arsenic - and a very good description of arsenic poisoning, too! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.145.49.185 ( talk) 18:49, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
is there an info on prevous people who accidentall discovered cyanide and then died? found in labs in unexplained at the time circumstances. How did they find it was poisonous? Engineman ( talk) 16:04, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
I removed this section as it wasn't referenced at all, and I doubt there are any reliable peer-reviewed references to cite:
"Rumors that consuming amygdalin or apricot seeds can cause cyanide poisoning are wrong. Amygdalin has supplemented anti-canceer therapy and has been approved by many health organization and governments, except in the U.S by FDA (Food and Drug Administration)."
I admit I skimmed most of the Wiki article but still, shouldn't something be said about poisoning via means other than inhalation (i.e., oral ingestion)? If the effects are the same--that's kind of what I was looking to find out and admit that I do not know--then I wish that would be mentioned. Not all "cyanide poisioning" is just by inhalation of it, and the article seems to only address that, at least in the first part. Again, I skimmed it, but a general article on "cyanide poisoning" should not cover ONLY "what happens if INHALED..." 71.236.158.179 ( talk) 05:31, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
In this and two other articles, I removed statements supported by this source: Hall, AH; Dart, R; Bogdan, G (2007). "Sodium thiosulfate or hydroxocobalamin for the empiric treatment of cyanide poisoning?". Annals of emergency medicine. 49 (6): 806–13.
doi:
10.1016/j.annemergmed.2006.09.021.
PMID
17098327. {{
cite journal}}
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help); Unknown parameter |author-separator=
ignored (
help) begins by disclosing that the lead author is funded from a company that sells hydroxocobalamin. That kind of conflict of interest suggests that this source is not reliable. If anyone has thoughts or views, leave them here. --
Smokefoot (
talk) 18:23, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
In the "suicide" section, we find "Cyanide, in the form of pure liquid prussic acid (a historical name for hydrogen cyanide), was the favored suicide agent of the Third Reich. It was used to commit suicide by Erwin Rommel (1944), after being accused of conspiring against Hitler;"
However, the WIkipedia article on Rommel
states "Burgdorf had brought a cyanide capsule. After a few minutes alone, Rommel announced that he chose to end his own life and explained his decision to his wife and son".
Which one, kids ? Other articles
http://www.eyewitnesstohistory.com/rommel.htm
seem to indicate Door Number Two but we all know how much one can trust the Internet. 210.22.142.82 ( talk) 08:43, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
The murder section contains a list of people's names, some of which murdered using cyanide, some of which were murdered using cyanide. While some of them have descriptive text that clarifies which, most do not. -- Ericjs ( talk) 16:56, 11 May 2016 (UTC)
So moved here Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 20:21, 2 October 2016 (UTC)
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Why isn't there a single citation for the whole paragraph? t1n0 09:46, 3 October 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by T1n0 ( talk • contribs)
In this article:
Cyanide, in the form of pure liquid prussic acid (a historical name for hydrogen cyanide), was the favored suicide agent of the Third Reich. It was used to commit suicide by Erwin Rommel (1944), after being accused of conspiring against Hitler; Adolf Hitler's wife, Eva Braun (1945); and by Nazi leaders Heinrich Himmler (1945), possibly Martin Bormann (1945), and Hermann Göring (1946).
In Potassium cyanide article:
A number of prominent persons were killed or committed suicide using potassium cyanide, including members of the Young Bosnia and famous personalities in the Third Reich, such as Erwin Rommel, Hitler's longtime companion Eva Braun, Joseph Goebbels, Heinrich Himmler, and Hermann Göring.
-- Inconexo ( talk) 12:01, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
Historically cyanide has been used for mass suicide and by the Nazis for genocide.[3]
Sadly the reference cited does not support Nazi genocide. I ain't denyin' it's so, I'm just asking for a Nazi using cyanide for genocide ref. It actually seems pretty pricey. ThomasHarrisGrantsPass ( talk) 22:56, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
"Chemical and clinical aspects of poisoning by cyanide have been reviewed". [1]
Looks a little like ref spam. Sure it has been reviewed? And... Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 11:32, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
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Dietary phytocyanide causes plaque to accumulate in tissues which impairs circulation then damages these tissues. David_Ross_Garrett ( talk) 10:00, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
'cyanide is contained in tobacco smoke' Cyanide results from the burning of many, many types of vegetation. See https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21694708/ to take one example.
As an editorial comment I will suggest that the emphasis on the cyanide content of tobacco smoke is simply an attempt to demonize tobacco smoke in ostensible aid of public health. Worrying over the cyanide content of tobacco smoke makes as much sense as worrying over the mercury content of vaccines. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.126.71.12 ( talk) 16:26, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
I note the absence of the Bhopal disaster in the "History - mining and industrial" section. The agent in that instance was methyl isocyanate. Is that a significantly different sort of beast than the cyanide forms described here? Tuesdave ( talk) 18:38, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
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Dr yazeed essa murdered his wife with cyanide. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:8003:941B:B00:F9B5:31B4:DAEC:1A79 ( talk) 16:58, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
Cyanide poisoning may be deadly in minutes. Many people die on fires when they breath cyanide from smoke, especially from plastic materials. Cyanide poisoning may also occur from consumption of bitter almonds and from overdose of the drug nitroprussade! Antidotes for cyanide poisoning do exist and include hydroxocobalamin (a form of vitamin B12!) and also amyl nitrite(administered by inhalation), sodium nitrite, and sodium thiosulfate. 688dim ( talk) 22:46, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
Typically in spy films, the villainous henchman swallows a small cyanide pill, gasps, and then dies before James Bond can pump him for information. How realistic is this? How much cyanide would be needed to have a movie-style effect, e.g. almost-instant death, with just enough time for the villain to say "the loot is hidden... castle... Velma! (gasp)". - Ashley Pomeroy ( talk) 15:06, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
I am a medicine expert. Well, I do not know how you know these details. Are you a toxicologist/pathologist/coroner/forensic scientist? In fact I am not sure about the timing of the events you refer above. In practice, the most common cause of cyanide poisoning is to breath smoke of burned plastic, so fire victims may suffocate from cyanide. It actually has 200 times higher affinity for hemoglobin and displaces oxygen from it, so we have tissue hypoxia. Thats the important and not the chronological symptoms that may not occur in that sequence. 688dim ( talk) 21:34, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
Can anyone verify that cyanide actually causes death by interrupting the electron transport chain? From what I've read and heard, it actually permanently binds to hemoglobin and effectively asphyxiates the victim. A quick google search of 'hemoglobin' and 'cyanide' returned multiple results claiming that this was the actual cause of cyanide death (Except for the first result, which was actually a rip off of this page, except that it crashed firefox after loading.). 71.117.83.134 ( talk) 02:10, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
Adolf Hitler himself also bit a cyanide capsule while simultaneously firing his Walther PPK pistol into his right temple, but since a bullet is instantaneous, it can be assumed that the bullet actually caused his death.
The above is disputed by Ian Kershaw in "Hitler, 1936-1945: Nemesis". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.105.56.178 ( talk) 12:23, 21 January 2010 (UTC) dont trust wikipidea its fake! i got an F on my project im stressed i know —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.70.207.12 ( talk) 00:56, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
e. It has been placed here with intent to scare people out of consuming apricot kernels, whose ability to cure even terminal cancer have been documented time and time again. The FDA does not want people consuming apricot kernels because they fear that if people turn to highly effective alternative cancer treatments, their billion dollar industry of standard medicine (surgery, radiation, chemo) will go down the tubes. If cyanide poisoning were a real lethal threat, fruits like apples, watermelons, apricots, etc. would have warnings in supermarkets. If the FDA was truly concerned about your health, as they claim to be with regards to apricot kernels, then they would have already placed a ban on cigarettes and alcohol. I have read dozens of stories of people being cured from even TERMINAL cancers by apricot kernel consumption. Not once have I come across anyone with "cyanide poisoning" or death as a result of consumption. Now get this propaganda off this page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.241.151.200 ( talk) 21:11, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
As for your stories of people cured by apricot pits, save them for your collection of stories of ghosts and religious miracles. S B H arris 19:17, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
The fact that hydrogen cyanide has been used in judicial executions is mentioned twice, at the bottom of section 3 and in section 4.1. I think that these occurrences should be merged into section 4.1. The suicides of many Nazis is also mentioned twice, both at the bottom of section 3 and in section 4.3. I think that these should be merged into section 4.3. Does anybody else agree with me? Nutster ( talk) 12:56, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
Nope. Not cyanide, but arsenic - and a very good description of arsenic poisoning, too! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.145.49.185 ( talk) 18:49, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
is there an info on prevous people who accidentall discovered cyanide and then died? found in labs in unexplained at the time circumstances. How did they find it was poisonous? Engineman ( talk) 16:04, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
I removed this section as it wasn't referenced at all, and I doubt there are any reliable peer-reviewed references to cite:
"Rumors that consuming amygdalin or apricot seeds can cause cyanide poisoning are wrong. Amygdalin has supplemented anti-canceer therapy and has been approved by many health organization and governments, except in the U.S by FDA (Food and Drug Administration)."
I admit I skimmed most of the Wiki article but still, shouldn't something be said about poisoning via means other than inhalation (i.e., oral ingestion)? If the effects are the same--that's kind of what I was looking to find out and admit that I do not know--then I wish that would be mentioned. Not all "cyanide poisioning" is just by inhalation of it, and the article seems to only address that, at least in the first part. Again, I skimmed it, but a general article on "cyanide poisoning" should not cover ONLY "what happens if INHALED..." 71.236.158.179 ( talk) 05:31, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
In this and two other articles, I removed statements supported by this source: Hall, AH; Dart, R; Bogdan, G (2007). "Sodium thiosulfate or hydroxocobalamin for the empiric treatment of cyanide poisoning?". Annals of emergency medicine. 49 (6): 806–13.
doi:
10.1016/j.annemergmed.2006.09.021.
PMID
17098327. {{
cite journal}}
: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |author-name-separator=
(
help); Unknown parameter |author-separator=
ignored (
help) begins by disclosing that the lead author is funded from a company that sells hydroxocobalamin. That kind of conflict of interest suggests that this source is not reliable. If anyone has thoughts or views, leave them here. --
Smokefoot (
talk) 18:23, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
In the "suicide" section, we find "Cyanide, in the form of pure liquid prussic acid (a historical name for hydrogen cyanide), was the favored suicide agent of the Third Reich. It was used to commit suicide by Erwin Rommel (1944), after being accused of conspiring against Hitler;"
However, the WIkipedia article on Rommel
states "Burgdorf had brought a cyanide capsule. After a few minutes alone, Rommel announced that he chose to end his own life and explained his decision to his wife and son".
Which one, kids ? Other articles
http://www.eyewitnesstohistory.com/rommel.htm
seem to indicate Door Number Two but we all know how much one can trust the Internet. 210.22.142.82 ( talk) 08:43, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
The murder section contains a list of people's names, some of which murdered using cyanide, some of which were murdered using cyanide. While some of them have descriptive text that clarifies which, most do not. -- Ericjs ( talk) 16:56, 11 May 2016 (UTC)
So moved here Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 20:21, 2 October 2016 (UTC)
Extended content
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Homicide
Suicide
Other
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Why isn't there a single citation for the whole paragraph? t1n0 09:46, 3 October 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by T1n0 ( talk • contribs)
In this article:
Cyanide, in the form of pure liquid prussic acid (a historical name for hydrogen cyanide), was the favored suicide agent of the Third Reich. It was used to commit suicide by Erwin Rommel (1944), after being accused of conspiring against Hitler; Adolf Hitler's wife, Eva Braun (1945); and by Nazi leaders Heinrich Himmler (1945), possibly Martin Bormann (1945), and Hermann Göring (1946).
In Potassium cyanide article:
A number of prominent persons were killed or committed suicide using potassium cyanide, including members of the Young Bosnia and famous personalities in the Third Reich, such as Erwin Rommel, Hitler's longtime companion Eva Braun, Joseph Goebbels, Heinrich Himmler, and Hermann Göring.
-- Inconexo ( talk) 12:01, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
Historically cyanide has been used for mass suicide and by the Nazis for genocide.[3]
Sadly the reference cited does not support Nazi genocide. I ain't denyin' it's so, I'm just asking for a Nazi using cyanide for genocide ref. It actually seems pretty pricey. ThomasHarrisGrantsPass ( talk) 22:56, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
"Chemical and clinical aspects of poisoning by cyanide have been reviewed". [1]
Looks a little like ref spam. Sure it has been reviewed? And... Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 11:32, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
References
{{
cite book}}
: |editor4-first=
has generic name (
help); |journal=
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help)
Dietary phytocyanide causes plaque to accumulate in tissues which impairs circulation then damages these tissues. David_Ross_Garrett ( talk) 10:00, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
'cyanide is contained in tobacco smoke' Cyanide results from the burning of many, many types of vegetation. See https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21694708/ to take one example.
As an editorial comment I will suggest that the emphasis on the cyanide content of tobacco smoke is simply an attempt to demonize tobacco smoke in ostensible aid of public health. Worrying over the cyanide content of tobacco smoke makes as much sense as worrying over the mercury content of vaccines. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.126.71.12 ( talk) 16:26, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
I note the absence of the Bhopal disaster in the "History - mining and industrial" section. The agent in that instance was methyl isocyanate. Is that a significantly different sort of beast than the cyanide forms described here? Tuesdave ( talk) 18:38, 20 October 2023 (UTC)