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I changed the image to the right of the screen because the junction between the first line and the image itself was a little ugly. -- Jotomicron | talk 16:19, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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The article only describes the garment worn, when, by general definition, it includes or can refer exclusively to the hood of the garment, or any other article of clothing worn as a hood. Should/can this be added in? I'd do it, but I'm still rather new to editing Wikipedia in anything more than minor spelling/grammar errors. -- Mike 01:11, 8 December 2006 (UTC) reply

I'm a bit more cavalier, and have just updated the article. LachlanA 02:30, 5 June 2007 (UTC) reply

Hi. The cucullus is seen depicted in Roman art, and goes back to at least the 2nd Century AD. Reference 'Roman Military Clothing 2' by Graham Sumner. Also Bill Thayer's expansive and highly reliable Lacus Curtius site, in the online edition of the Greek and Roman Dictionary. "Cowls were imported into Italy from Saintes in France (Santonico cucullo, Juv. VIII.145; Schol. in loc.), and from the country of the Bardaei in Illyria (Jul. Cap. Pertinax, 8). Those from the latter locality were probably of a peculiar fashion, which gave origin to the term Bardocucullus. Liburnici cuculli are mentioned by Martial (xiv.139)". Best. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.203.8.25 ( talk) 09:07, August 28, 2007 (UTC)

Should Rewrite to Increase Scope

Unfortunately, the article is overly-specific while appropriating a general term. This page should be about the piece of clothing in general, NOT just the specific religious one. It would not make sense to split this into multiple pages each for a specific type of clothing. Rather, this page should be amended to reflect all types of cowls used as clothing, with the current text being but one section.

Cowls as fashion pieces vary quite a bit, from something similar to a woman's full dress, to a tailored head/shoulder covering, to a cylindrical piece worn just as a hood (no shoulder cover), to even a sweater with a very large and loose turtle-neck. The depiction in various comics and graphic novels is exemplified by Batman, but others have something similar - a tight-fitting head/shoulder cover that least most (if not all) the face open, for which a mask is often a distinctly separate piece. A quick web image search shows a wide variety of designs labeled "cowl", the large majority of them which do not adhere to the current page's religious attire description. Trims2u ( talk) 11:09, 25 August 2023 (UTC) reply


What about Batman?

It should be mentioned Batman wears a cowl —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.241.232.122 ( talk) 09:24, 28 September 2008 (UTC) reply

Wrong

This article is wrong it doesn't even agree with the one link it has at the bottom. The Cowl seems to be a peice of hood and shoulder clothing. See http://www.medievalcollectibles.com/p-5538-woodsmans-cowl.aspx -- Kitchen Knife ( talk) 20:19, 22 December 2009 (UTC) I believe you are correct about what a cowl is. See also larp-fashion.co.uk — Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.99.198.155 ( talk) 17:15, 18 November 2020 (UTC) reply

Cows / Owls

This article has no mention of the cow/owl hybrid, the majestic cowl, with its mighty wings, bellowing "moot", and it's rough fleathers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.16.25.236 ( talk) 19:02, 20 August 2013 (UTC) reply

Without proper references, it is a "moot" point. Daniel the Monk ( talk) 01:12, 21 August 2013 (UTC) reply
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Image

I changed the image to the right of the screen because the junction between the first line and the image itself was a little ugly. -- Jotomicron | talk 16:19, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Main Article

The article only describes the garment worn, when, by general definition, it includes or can refer exclusively to the hood of the garment, or any other article of clothing worn as a hood. Should/can this be added in? I'd do it, but I'm still rather new to editing Wikipedia in anything more than minor spelling/grammar errors. -- Mike 01:11, 8 December 2006 (UTC) reply

I'm a bit more cavalier, and have just updated the article. LachlanA 02:30, 5 June 2007 (UTC) reply

Hi. The cucullus is seen depicted in Roman art, and goes back to at least the 2nd Century AD. Reference 'Roman Military Clothing 2' by Graham Sumner. Also Bill Thayer's expansive and highly reliable Lacus Curtius site, in the online edition of the Greek and Roman Dictionary. "Cowls were imported into Italy from Saintes in France (Santonico cucullo, Juv. VIII.145; Schol. in loc.), and from the country of the Bardaei in Illyria (Jul. Cap. Pertinax, 8). Those from the latter locality were probably of a peculiar fashion, which gave origin to the term Bardocucullus. Liburnici cuculli are mentioned by Martial (xiv.139)". Best. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.203.8.25 ( talk) 09:07, August 28, 2007 (UTC)

Should Rewrite to Increase Scope

Unfortunately, the article is overly-specific while appropriating a general term. This page should be about the piece of clothing in general, NOT just the specific religious one. It would not make sense to split this into multiple pages each for a specific type of clothing. Rather, this page should be amended to reflect all types of cowls used as clothing, with the current text being but one section.

Cowls as fashion pieces vary quite a bit, from something similar to a woman's full dress, to a tailored head/shoulder covering, to a cylindrical piece worn just as a hood (no shoulder cover), to even a sweater with a very large and loose turtle-neck. The depiction in various comics and graphic novels is exemplified by Batman, but others have something similar - a tight-fitting head/shoulder cover that least most (if not all) the face open, for which a mask is often a distinctly separate piece. A quick web image search shows a wide variety of designs labeled "cowl", the large majority of them which do not adhere to the current page's religious attire description. Trims2u ( talk) 11:09, 25 August 2023 (UTC) reply


What about Batman?

It should be mentioned Batman wears a cowl —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.241.232.122 ( talk) 09:24, 28 September 2008 (UTC) reply

Wrong

This article is wrong it doesn't even agree with the one link it has at the bottom. The Cowl seems to be a peice of hood and shoulder clothing. See http://www.medievalcollectibles.com/p-5538-woodsmans-cowl.aspx -- Kitchen Knife ( talk) 20:19, 22 December 2009 (UTC) I believe you are correct about what a cowl is. See also larp-fashion.co.uk — Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.99.198.155 ( talk) 17:15, 18 November 2020 (UTC) reply

Cows / Owls

This article has no mention of the cow/owl hybrid, the majestic cowl, with its mighty wings, bellowing "moot", and it's rough fleathers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.16.25.236 ( talk) 19:02, 20 August 2013 (UTC) reply

Without proper references, it is a "moot" point. Daniel the Monk ( talk) 01:12, 21 August 2013 (UTC) reply

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