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is this a poem or a type of poem?
"Shi" is just the simple Chinese translation for the wor "poem." It is inapproprate to use this for a article title. This article is about Chinese poetry / Poetry of China and should be renamed as such. -- Jiang 23:33 3 Jul 2003 (UTC)
I've expanded the content significantly, to cover the forms in more detail and adding forms not already covered. The structure at the moment is based on the forms used in each period (early, classical, modern), which I think (hope) works OK.
Markalexander100 07:22, 20 Feb 2004 (UTC)
This article needs an intro/abstract
— Sverdrup
(talk) 17:11, 28 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Now it's quite a good article, thanks to Mark, and also to Jiang who made the fluid final layout. (Sorry for not contributing - I'm interested but doesn't know a lot! :-) Gj, all. — Sverdrup 00:07, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
We need something that we can link to to explain the different forms when we mention them in other articles. I think that means either spinning off each of the forms to its own page (like ci-poetry), or section headings for each form. Comments? Markalexander100 07:01, 20 May 2004 (UTC)
Underway. ;) Markalexander100 05:16, 22 May 2004 (UTC)
Come on Chinese poetry, you can do better than that! Check out the page on Japanese poetry -- and Japan doesn't have nearly as rich a tradition as the Chinese!
Bathrobe 22 August 2005
[Confused by a redirection] Thomashauk 23:02, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
This article and the shi article show some misconceptions of Chinese poetry. Terminology is a problem. I've tried to correct them. But there are still too many things to do.-- K.C. Tang 04:17, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
There're still a long way to go. This article lacks an in-depth analysis of Chinese shi, as well as the historical development of the art of poetry in general. I believe some examples of poems would make it better. 尖尖的鹿角 ( talk) 13:00, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
I'm not finding this article very useful for getting a good overview of the history of Chinese literature, and I've had classes on the subject, so I'm somewhat familiar. But it seems that each section is too short to provide a good introduction to both the formal characteristics of each period and the key movements/poets. How can we better organize the individual sections? Aristophanes68 ( talk) 02:30, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
Me again--I'm looking through the revision history, and it appears that a lot of really useful information has been removed from the article over time. If anyone has the time and energy to work through the previous revisions, we might be able to restore some of the best material from past versions. Thanks, Aristophanes68 ( talk) 18:42, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
The section on influence doesn't have any sources and only randomly cites the beat movement with a link psychedelic music. The section should either be expanded or deleted in my opinion.
The last section on modern poetry was full of grammatical errors and it was entirely unreferenced. I didn't disagree with everything in it, so I left it and just tried to clean it up, but it requires some research to be satisfactory. I will try to get back to this after I read up on the topic some more. —Zujine| talk 03:08, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
The final sentence "Other notable poetry was written during the Ming Dynasty, the Ming-Qing Transition, and during the Qing Dynasty." seems unacceptably vague. Is there any reason not to delete it? It could also be rephrased to refer to "many minor developments", but why bring them up without description? Philipmerrill ( talk) 12:21, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
The four notes that are presently there all are referred from the beginning paragraph of the main body on Classical Chinese poetry and only supply the characters to go with four major poetic styles (shi, ci, qu, and fu). Once the article gets going two paragraphs later, characters are inserted into the text enclosed by parentheses, so there is a certain inconsistency between that practice and the notes. I can see the desirability of having a notes section but I suggest that this is a poor use of it, and the characters should be inserted in parentheses where the present footnote references are. Philipmerrill ( talk) 12:27, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
Done (did it), thanks Dcattell. Philipmerrill ( talk) 09:35, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
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Could someone create an article for the early Qing Dynasty poet Mao Xianshu (毛先舒)? 173.88.241.33 ( talk) 16:01, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
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is this a poem or a type of poem?
"Shi" is just the simple Chinese translation for the wor "poem." It is inapproprate to use this for a article title. This article is about Chinese poetry / Poetry of China and should be renamed as such. -- Jiang 23:33 3 Jul 2003 (UTC)
I've expanded the content significantly, to cover the forms in more detail and adding forms not already covered. The structure at the moment is based on the forms used in each period (early, classical, modern), which I think (hope) works OK.
Markalexander100 07:22, 20 Feb 2004 (UTC)
This article needs an intro/abstract
— Sverdrup
(talk) 17:11, 28 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Now it's quite a good article, thanks to Mark, and also to Jiang who made the fluid final layout. (Sorry for not contributing - I'm interested but doesn't know a lot! :-) Gj, all. — Sverdrup 00:07, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
We need something that we can link to to explain the different forms when we mention them in other articles. I think that means either spinning off each of the forms to its own page (like ci-poetry), or section headings for each form. Comments? Markalexander100 07:01, 20 May 2004 (UTC)
Underway. ;) Markalexander100 05:16, 22 May 2004 (UTC)
Come on Chinese poetry, you can do better than that! Check out the page on Japanese poetry -- and Japan doesn't have nearly as rich a tradition as the Chinese!
Bathrobe 22 August 2005
[Confused by a redirection] Thomashauk 23:02, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
This article and the shi article show some misconceptions of Chinese poetry. Terminology is a problem. I've tried to correct them. But there are still too many things to do.-- K.C. Tang 04:17, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
There're still a long way to go. This article lacks an in-depth analysis of Chinese shi, as well as the historical development of the art of poetry in general. I believe some examples of poems would make it better. 尖尖的鹿角 ( talk) 13:00, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
I'm not finding this article very useful for getting a good overview of the history of Chinese literature, and I've had classes on the subject, so I'm somewhat familiar. But it seems that each section is too short to provide a good introduction to both the formal characteristics of each period and the key movements/poets. How can we better organize the individual sections? Aristophanes68 ( talk) 02:30, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
Me again--I'm looking through the revision history, and it appears that a lot of really useful information has been removed from the article over time. If anyone has the time and energy to work through the previous revisions, we might be able to restore some of the best material from past versions. Thanks, Aristophanes68 ( talk) 18:42, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
The section on influence doesn't have any sources and only randomly cites the beat movement with a link psychedelic music. The section should either be expanded or deleted in my opinion.
The last section on modern poetry was full of grammatical errors and it was entirely unreferenced. I didn't disagree with everything in it, so I left it and just tried to clean it up, but it requires some research to be satisfactory. I will try to get back to this after I read up on the topic some more. —Zujine| talk 03:08, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
The final sentence "Other notable poetry was written during the Ming Dynasty, the Ming-Qing Transition, and during the Qing Dynasty." seems unacceptably vague. Is there any reason not to delete it? It could also be rephrased to refer to "many minor developments", but why bring them up without description? Philipmerrill ( talk) 12:21, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
The four notes that are presently there all are referred from the beginning paragraph of the main body on Classical Chinese poetry and only supply the characters to go with four major poetic styles (shi, ci, qu, and fu). Once the article gets going two paragraphs later, characters are inserted into the text enclosed by parentheses, so there is a certain inconsistency between that practice and the notes. I can see the desirability of having a notes section but I suggest that this is a poor use of it, and the characters should be inserted in parentheses where the present footnote references are. Philipmerrill ( talk) 12:27, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
Done (did it), thanks Dcattell. Philipmerrill ( talk) 09:35, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
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Could someone create an article for the early Qing Dynasty poet Mao Xianshu (毛先舒)? 173.88.241.33 ( talk) 16:01, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
New article needed: Ten Talents of the Dali Reign (大历十才子; pinyin: Dàlì Shí Cáizǐ). 173.88.246.138 ( talk) 03:07, 10 July 2021 (UTC)