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I've gone through and expanded the core text a bit, adding references and citations. It will probably need a copy-edit, however. Hchc2009 ( talk) 17:23, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
Who numbered him Charles IV? He should have been Charles V, following Charlemagne (I), Charles the Bald (II), Charles the Fat, and Charles the Simple (III). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emerson 07 ( talk • contribs) 04:41, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
The article notes Charles's son by his second wife in this fashion: "Louis de France (March 1324)". Without the customary birth and death dates, I suppose it's logical to assume that March 1324 was both (as it was), but this isn't immediately obvious to a reader not familiar with genealogical conventions. Would purists be horrified if we spelled it out -- something like "Louis de France (born and died March 1324)"? Given that the absence of a son when Charles died was the whole basis for the Hundred Years' War, the fate of this little baby is unusually important. JamesMLane t c 18:42, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
He had some children who died before he did, but when he died his daughters Marie (Mary) and Blanche were both still alive. If he had the throne of Navarre why didn't Mary get the throne of Navarre when he died? In the non-Salic male-preference primogeniture of Navarre why wouldn't the oldest surviving daughter of a King with no sons get his throne? And we know Navarre does NOT go by Salic because look at who DID get the throne of Navarre when Charles IV of France died: Joan (II), i.e. a woman, so that repudiates any suggestion that Mary and Blanche couldn't inherit on account of being female. Now, their father's place in the succession of Navarre must have been senior to Joan II's, or else she'd have had that throne all along, instead of having to wait for Charles IV to die. If their father had precedence over Joan II, why didn't they? 69.86.65.12 ( talk) 11:29, 4 October 2013 (UTC)Christopher L. Simpson
The footnote after his name says that in the standard numbering of French kings, he is Charles V. So why aren't we following the standard numbering? Richard75 ( talk) 19:06, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
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I've gone through and expanded the core text a bit, adding references and citations. It will probably need a copy-edit, however. Hchc2009 ( talk) 17:23, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
Who numbered him Charles IV? He should have been Charles V, following Charlemagne (I), Charles the Bald (II), Charles the Fat, and Charles the Simple (III). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emerson 07 ( talk • contribs) 04:41, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
The article notes Charles's son by his second wife in this fashion: "Louis de France (March 1324)". Without the customary birth and death dates, I suppose it's logical to assume that March 1324 was both (as it was), but this isn't immediately obvious to a reader not familiar with genealogical conventions. Would purists be horrified if we spelled it out -- something like "Louis de France (born and died March 1324)"? Given that the absence of a son when Charles died was the whole basis for the Hundred Years' War, the fate of this little baby is unusually important. JamesMLane t c 18:42, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
He had some children who died before he did, but when he died his daughters Marie (Mary) and Blanche were both still alive. If he had the throne of Navarre why didn't Mary get the throne of Navarre when he died? In the non-Salic male-preference primogeniture of Navarre why wouldn't the oldest surviving daughter of a King with no sons get his throne? And we know Navarre does NOT go by Salic because look at who DID get the throne of Navarre when Charles IV of France died: Joan (II), i.e. a woman, so that repudiates any suggestion that Mary and Blanche couldn't inherit on account of being female. Now, their father's place in the succession of Navarre must have been senior to Joan II's, or else she'd have had that throne all along, instead of having to wait for Charles IV to die. If their father had precedence over Joan II, why didn't they? 69.86.65.12 ( talk) 11:29, 4 October 2013 (UTC)Christopher L. Simpson
The footnote after his name says that in the standard numbering of French kings, he is Charles V. So why aren't we following the standard numbering? Richard75 ( talk) 19:06, 9 July 2019 (UTC)