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I count seven articles with much overlap between them: Capital district, Federal district, National capital district, Special capital district, Capital territory, Federal capital territory, National capital territory. Let's make one article that discusses difference among them, instead of all the duplication. I propose this one as the target, but I'm open to other suggestions. This article has the longest list, but Federal district is the only one with real content.-- Natcase 01:45, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
Further thought: make one combined article on Capital districts and territories, thereby removing potential bias towards one terminology or the other.We still need a refer from the Federal territory for the Federal districts of Russia-- Natcase 02:00, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
After a week of no response, I went ahead and did it...I think I cleaned up the administrative areas template, but not sure.-- Natcase 07:02, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
- Support merging of National capital territory into this article. -- RobBrisbane 11:22, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
Q:Why doesn't this article include more countries OR delete all the countries and make this article a general discussion on what constitutes a "capital district"? tommy talk 16:07, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
- The Lead of the article is a general discussion on what contitutes a capital district. The reason there is an annotated list by country is that each country listed organizes its capital district in a unique way. If you know of a country whose capital district (not just its
Capital (political)) is not listed, please feel free to mention it, and we'll add it if it qualifies. Thanks. -
BilCat (
talk) 16:57, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
- Hmm... so, Harare in Zimbabwe would be included here? If I'm following you correctly.
tommy
talk 18:20, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
- Possibly, but I'm not certain. The city's article states it's not a province, but an independent city, but that's as far as it goes. Zimbabwe isn't a federal nation as such, as far as I can tell, as most of the others are. - BilCat ( talk) 18:37, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
- And capital districts are generally only used in countries witha federal system. A national governemt already controls everything in a unitary system, while under a federal system, the state/provinces have a large degree of autonomy, often set by a fixed constitution. The capital district thus enables the federal government to exercise direct control over the capital district, and keeps it out of a state's control and its politics. - BilCat ( talk) 20:12, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
- Hmm... so, Harare in Zimbabwe would be included here? If I'm following you correctly.
tommy
talk 18:20, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
- Should we include Germany and Austria and possibly Belgium? The have capitals which are city-states (state and city are the same area). They are federal countries.
- Should we include Norway? Its capital is not part of any county, approximately like Sweden before 1968. Norway is a unity state, but the counties still have political significance. Or shall we delete Sweden, a unity state? -- BIL ( talk) 15:42, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
The sentence "...state or territory...eminence over the capital within its borders" doesn't make sense. Probably mean no state has power over the federal district even if the district is an enclave within the state?-- Mistakefinder ( talk) 17:33, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
Clearly, if the PRC can be listed under C for China, then the USA can be listed under A for America. I'm only half-trolling. – RVJ ( talk) 12:04, 12 December 2014 (UTC)
- In order to avoid having to discuss the same thing in many articles, and to have a common style policy, we should here follow the policy in the main article for a subject. Regarding how to sort countries, we should follow List of sovereign states. If the sort order there is not considered good, please discuss it there, not here.-- BIL ( talk) 21:57, 12 December 2014 (UTC)
"National capital territory" listed at Redirects for discussion
A discussion is taking place to address the redirect
National capital territory. The discussion will occur at
Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 January 2#National capital territory until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion.
Soumya-8974 (he)
talk
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I count seven articles with much overlap between them: Capital district, Federal district, National capital district, Special capital district, Capital territory, Federal capital territory, National capital territory. Let's make one article that discusses difference among them, instead of all the duplication. I propose this one as the target, but I'm open to other suggestions. This article has the longest list, but Federal district is the only one with real content.-- Natcase 01:45, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
Further thought: make one combined article on Capital districts and territories, thereby removing potential bias towards one terminology or the other.We still need a refer from the Federal territory for the Federal districts of Russia-- Natcase 02:00, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
After a week of no response, I went ahead and did it...I think I cleaned up the administrative areas template, but not sure.-- Natcase 07:02, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
- Support merging of National capital territory into this article. -- RobBrisbane 11:22, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
Q:Why doesn't this article include more countries OR delete all the countries and make this article a general discussion on what constitutes a "capital district"? tommy talk 16:07, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
- The Lead of the article is a general discussion on what contitutes a capital district. The reason there is an annotated list by country is that each country listed organizes its capital district in a unique way. If you know of a country whose capital district (not just its
Capital (political)) is not listed, please feel free to mention it, and we'll add it if it qualifies. Thanks. -
BilCat (
talk) 16:57, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
- Hmm... so, Harare in Zimbabwe would be included here? If I'm following you correctly.
tommy
talk 18:20, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
- Possibly, but I'm not certain. The city's article states it's not a province, but an independent city, but that's as far as it goes. Zimbabwe isn't a federal nation as such, as far as I can tell, as most of the others are. - BilCat ( talk) 18:37, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
- And capital districts are generally only used in countries witha federal system. A national governemt already controls everything in a unitary system, while under a federal system, the state/provinces have a large degree of autonomy, often set by a fixed constitution. The capital district thus enables the federal government to exercise direct control over the capital district, and keeps it out of a state's control and its politics. - BilCat ( talk) 20:12, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
- Hmm... so, Harare in Zimbabwe would be included here? If I'm following you correctly.
tommy
talk 18:20, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
- Should we include Germany and Austria and possibly Belgium? The have capitals which are city-states (state and city are the same area). They are federal countries.
- Should we include Norway? Its capital is not part of any county, approximately like Sweden before 1968. Norway is a unity state, but the counties still have political significance. Or shall we delete Sweden, a unity state? -- BIL ( talk) 15:42, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
The sentence "...state or territory...eminence over the capital within its borders" doesn't make sense. Probably mean no state has power over the federal district even if the district is an enclave within the state?-- Mistakefinder ( talk) 17:33, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
Clearly, if the PRC can be listed under C for China, then the USA can be listed under A for America. I'm only half-trolling. – RVJ ( talk) 12:04, 12 December 2014 (UTC)
- In order to avoid having to discuss the same thing in many articles, and to have a common style policy, we should here follow the policy in the main article for a subject. Regarding how to sort countries, we should follow List of sovereign states. If the sort order there is not considered good, please discuss it there, not here.-- BIL ( talk) 21:57, 12 December 2014 (UTC)
"National capital territory" listed at Redirects for discussion
A discussion is taking place to address the redirect
National capital territory. The discussion will occur at
Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 January 2#National capital territory until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion.
Soumya-8974 (he)
talk
contribs
subpages 09:52, 2 January 2021 (UTC)