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Songs or hymns?

While reading this informative account, I was a little surprised to see that "songs" has been widely used in the article. In my experience, in discussing traditional Roman Catholic and Anglican hymnals, we generally refer to the items included as "hymns" rather than "songs". There may be cases when songs from other sources are added to a hymnal but once they are there, they become hymns too. There are, of course, exceptions -- especially when there have been attempts at modernization as in Songs of Praise (hymnal). I have a feeling that the use of "songs" may simply be a translation problem from German (as in Gotteslob) but before changing the text of the article, I thought it would be useful to raise the matter here. Any views on the matter?-- Ipigott ( talk) 08:58, 9 August 2020 (UTC) reply

Every hymn is also a song, the German word even is Kirchenlied (short: Lied), and "song is used sometimes to avoid too close repetition of "hymn" - "hymnal". -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 09:32, 9 August 2020 (UTC) reply
What you say is of course correct but I still think "songs" looks rather strange in this context. But others might not agree.-- Ipigott ( talk) 06:24, 10 August 2020 (UTC) reply
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Songs or hymns?

While reading this informative account, I was a little surprised to see that "songs" has been widely used in the article. In my experience, in discussing traditional Roman Catholic and Anglican hymnals, we generally refer to the items included as "hymns" rather than "songs". There may be cases when songs from other sources are added to a hymnal but once they are there, they become hymns too. There are, of course, exceptions -- especially when there have been attempts at modernization as in Songs of Praise (hymnal). I have a feeling that the use of "songs" may simply be a translation problem from German (as in Gotteslob) but before changing the text of the article, I thought it would be useful to raise the matter here. Any views on the matter?-- Ipigott ( talk) 08:58, 9 August 2020 (UTC) reply

Every hymn is also a song, the German word even is Kirchenlied (short: Lied), and "song is used sometimes to avoid too close repetition of "hymn" - "hymnal". -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 09:32, 9 August 2020 (UTC) reply
What you say is of course correct but I still think "songs" looks rather strange in this context. But others might not agree.-- Ipigott ( talk) 06:24, 10 August 2020 (UTC) reply

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