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Catoctin Mountain Park does not indicate the location of Camp David on its official park maps due to privacy and security concerns.
It can easily be found on Google Maps, heck, Camp David is just off Park Central Rd. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.188.64.244 ( talk) 22:16, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
From http://www.nps.gov/disclaimer.htm : "Information presented on this website, unless otherwise indicated , is considered in the public domain."
We might need to use the book From Mount Vernon to Crawford by Kenneth Walsh for this article, as it could use some sources, even if largely from an NPS site.-- Bedford 04:41, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
A great deal of content is taken verbatim from an article located at the Federation of American Scientists site at http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/usa/c3i/campdavid.htm [1]. There is nothing noting that the material is in the public domain on that page, and the main site of the FAS states, ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. We should look into this to make sure it doesn't violate any copyright rules. RobHoitt 00:31, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
Shouldn't this article be updated with news and photos of Barack Obama and his family at Camp David? It seems to concentrate mainly on Bush at the moment. 92.9.92.72 ( talk) 17:10, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
Two years later, the question still remains...where are pictures of the current president at Camp David? 203.110.206.180 ( talk) 11:41, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
I went looking tonight and unfortunately there are ZERO Camp David images at whitehouse.gov for President Obama. I have found some Camp David images of him but without sources I am unable to tell if they are government photos (which we can use) or press photos (which we can't). I'll keep an eye out because it would be nice if there was something in the gallery from each president. -- WGFinley ( talk) 08:04, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
The Bonnie Doon Reference for the Australian Prime Minister is a spoof as far as I can tell. Kirribilli House is the Sydney Residence of the Prime Minister of Australia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.35.82.133 ( talk) 23:37, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
It seems this article has become more and more about the military (or naval) nature of Camp David. While interesting, it is not exactly on topic. Ought we to do a serious pruning of the article? Paul, in Saudi ( talk) 02:51, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
I believe the pictures need to be cleaned up. Some of them barely show Camp David at all and just focus on people. In particular, the pictures that only shows a tennis court wall, a door, or a dark, blurry background. EternalFlare ( talk) 23:03, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
Seconded! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:8800:301:9B00:414F:D767:8C71:3877 ( talk) 17:03, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
I noticed when adding a citation for the Bill Clinton post that most of the bullet points in this section have been pulled verbatim from source number 14 in the 'References' section. I updated the Bill Clinton point, but it might be a good idea to update the others as well. -- Alwhela1 ( talk) 05:56, 12 February 2018 (UTC)
The entry for Trump brings up spending time at his properties at tax payers expense. While accurate, this does not seem to fit the general feel of this section as that does not pertain to Camp David. Additionally, the way it is written comes across as editorialized. The entries for other presidents do not mention the other places that they preferred to go to. Consider removing non-Camp David material or re-writing section. Butch81385 ( talk) 15:09, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
I have already changed the Presidential Use chart for Trump from "2" to "N/A" once. Why has it been changed back to 2? Where is the citation that says it is 2? That information is definitely not in the book cited for the chart. The total for Trump should be "N/A" unless someone can cite a reputable source. Couchinsurance ( talk) 15:03, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
The number for Trump has been changed to "13". As I have pointed out before, the majority of information in the table was pulled from the source listed. However, there are NO data in the book about Trump's visits. The statistic for Trump will need to be sourced elsewhere. As of right now it is not. Where does the 13 come from? If it isn't cited, it should be removed. Couchinsurance ( talk) 06:30, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
A book that was self-published in 2016 appears to have copied previously unsourced material from this Wikipedia page and later was cited as the source for the same material ( p.115). I removed it. I did some editing of the WP page today. The following is the text as it was before then. I bolded the parts that are used in the book.
Space4Time3Continuum2x ( talk) 14:15, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
President Eisenhower had the famous golf course architect Robert Trent Jones design a par 3 of a maximum 140 yards with four different tees. Ike also had a 250 yard driving range put in.<ref] https://aboutcampdavid.blogspot.com/2010/08/camp-david-golf-course.html </ref] Eisenhower, Kennedy, Nixon, Ford, Bush Sr., Clinton, Bush Jr., Obama, and Trump were/are golfers. 73.85.200.118 ( talk) 15:43, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
I understand that presidents played golf but why is there suddenly a HUGE amount of golf-related information on this page? A section discussing the facilities at Camp David for golfing seems fine, but all the various references peppered throughout the page seems terribly slapdash. In my opinion, the references should be removed or at the very least better arranged. Couchinsurance ( talk) 20:59, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
This article states: "It is code named Naval Support Facility Thurmont." Not sure this is a code name (a somewhat melodramatic term often used to make it sound like something sinister, clandestine, or secretive), it is just the official facility name for this USN operated base, consistent with many other support, as opposed to operational, bases around the world. Like most U.S. military bases, these facilities typically are named for a local geographic feature or city unless they get named for some specific historical figure, e.g., NSF Arlington (for Arlington VA) or NSF Dahlgren (for Rear Admiral John Adolphus Dahlgren - also in VA east of Fredericksburg). Thurmont MD (about 3 miles away from the base) is the closest town to Camp David (which if anything, is probably better described as a "code name"). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:801:300:7520:B0DB:1C4F:A8F7:D964 ( talk) 19:37, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
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Catoctin Mountain Park does not indicate the location of Camp David on its official park maps due to privacy and security concerns.
It can easily be found on Google Maps, heck, Camp David is just off Park Central Rd. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.188.64.244 ( talk) 22:16, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
From http://www.nps.gov/disclaimer.htm : "Information presented on this website, unless otherwise indicated , is considered in the public domain."
We might need to use the book From Mount Vernon to Crawford by Kenneth Walsh for this article, as it could use some sources, even if largely from an NPS site.-- Bedford 04:41, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
A great deal of content is taken verbatim from an article located at the Federation of American Scientists site at http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/usa/c3i/campdavid.htm [1]. There is nothing noting that the material is in the public domain on that page, and the main site of the FAS states, ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. We should look into this to make sure it doesn't violate any copyright rules. RobHoitt 00:31, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
Shouldn't this article be updated with news and photos of Barack Obama and his family at Camp David? It seems to concentrate mainly on Bush at the moment. 92.9.92.72 ( talk) 17:10, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
Two years later, the question still remains...where are pictures of the current president at Camp David? 203.110.206.180 ( talk) 11:41, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
I went looking tonight and unfortunately there are ZERO Camp David images at whitehouse.gov for President Obama. I have found some Camp David images of him but without sources I am unable to tell if they are government photos (which we can use) or press photos (which we can't). I'll keep an eye out because it would be nice if there was something in the gallery from each president. -- WGFinley ( talk) 08:04, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
The Bonnie Doon Reference for the Australian Prime Minister is a spoof as far as I can tell. Kirribilli House is the Sydney Residence of the Prime Minister of Australia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.35.82.133 ( talk) 23:37, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
It seems this article has become more and more about the military (or naval) nature of Camp David. While interesting, it is not exactly on topic. Ought we to do a serious pruning of the article? Paul, in Saudi ( talk) 02:51, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
I believe the pictures need to be cleaned up. Some of them barely show Camp David at all and just focus on people. In particular, the pictures that only shows a tennis court wall, a door, or a dark, blurry background. EternalFlare ( talk) 23:03, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
Seconded! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:8800:301:9B00:414F:D767:8C71:3877 ( talk) 17:03, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
I noticed when adding a citation for the Bill Clinton post that most of the bullet points in this section have been pulled verbatim from source number 14 in the 'References' section. I updated the Bill Clinton point, but it might be a good idea to update the others as well. -- Alwhela1 ( talk) 05:56, 12 February 2018 (UTC)
The entry for Trump brings up spending time at his properties at tax payers expense. While accurate, this does not seem to fit the general feel of this section as that does not pertain to Camp David. Additionally, the way it is written comes across as editorialized. The entries for other presidents do not mention the other places that they preferred to go to. Consider removing non-Camp David material or re-writing section. Butch81385 ( talk) 15:09, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
I have already changed the Presidential Use chart for Trump from "2" to "N/A" once. Why has it been changed back to 2? Where is the citation that says it is 2? That information is definitely not in the book cited for the chart. The total for Trump should be "N/A" unless someone can cite a reputable source. Couchinsurance ( talk) 15:03, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
The number for Trump has been changed to "13". As I have pointed out before, the majority of information in the table was pulled from the source listed. However, there are NO data in the book about Trump's visits. The statistic for Trump will need to be sourced elsewhere. As of right now it is not. Where does the 13 come from? If it isn't cited, it should be removed. Couchinsurance ( talk) 06:30, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
A book that was self-published in 2016 appears to have copied previously unsourced material from this Wikipedia page and later was cited as the source for the same material ( p.115). I removed it. I did some editing of the WP page today. The following is the text as it was before then. I bolded the parts that are used in the book.
Space4Time3Continuum2x ( talk) 14:15, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
President Eisenhower had the famous golf course architect Robert Trent Jones design a par 3 of a maximum 140 yards with four different tees. Ike also had a 250 yard driving range put in.<ref] https://aboutcampdavid.blogspot.com/2010/08/camp-david-golf-course.html </ref] Eisenhower, Kennedy, Nixon, Ford, Bush Sr., Clinton, Bush Jr., Obama, and Trump were/are golfers. 73.85.200.118 ( talk) 15:43, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
I understand that presidents played golf but why is there suddenly a HUGE amount of golf-related information on this page? A section discussing the facilities at Camp David for golfing seems fine, but all the various references peppered throughout the page seems terribly slapdash. In my opinion, the references should be removed or at the very least better arranged. Couchinsurance ( talk) 20:59, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
This article states: "It is code named Naval Support Facility Thurmont." Not sure this is a code name (a somewhat melodramatic term often used to make it sound like something sinister, clandestine, or secretive), it is just the official facility name for this USN operated base, consistent with many other support, as opposed to operational, bases around the world. Like most U.S. military bases, these facilities typically are named for a local geographic feature or city unless they get named for some specific historical figure, e.g., NSF Arlington (for Arlington VA) or NSF Dahlgren (for Rear Admiral John Adolphus Dahlgren - also in VA east of Fredericksburg). Thurmont MD (about 3 miles away from the base) is the closest town to Camp David (which if anything, is probably better described as a "code name"). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:801:300:7520:B0DB:1C4F:A8F7:D964 ( talk) 19:37, 27 March 2024 (UTC)