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Why is the map of modern-day California included in this article? The Bear Flaggers did not have any territorial control outside Sonoma, nor they represented the majority of Californians. Besides, the limits of California at that time were different from the current limits, as the border between Mexican California and British Oregon had not been clearly established, and the states of Nevada and Arizona had not yet been created. Besides, the limit between modern-day Mexico and modern-day California was not established either. For the same reason, the area in the infobox is misleading too, as it corresponds to modern-day California.
Bancroft describes how Torre tricked Fremont and his men into leaving Sausalito to return to Sonoma, so that Torre escaped from the area through Sausalito and across San Pablo Bay, to join the other two commanders of Mexican troops in their retreat to Santa Clara. This is an interesting piece of the story. May I suggest it be told in this article? Jeff in CA ( talk) 15:46, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
I'm writing this to support undoing a edit that changed Frémont's rank on July 5, 1846 from "Brevet Captain" to "Major (brevet lieutenant colonel)". Frémont was promoted to major by Robert F. Stockton some time after Stockton was put in charge of land operations by Commodore John D. Sloat on July 23, 1846 (Bancroft V:page 253). President Polk had signed a commission for Frémont as Lieutenant Colonel in May, 1846 but that wasn't known in California until October. Gets complicated. Dean95452 ( talk) 20:43, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
I just wanted to verify that this is correct: "Here the sheet was folded and worn in-two, and no more is found". Is it "worn in-two" or "torn in-two"? 42engineer ( talk) 22:19, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
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Frémont had signed up American immigrants at Sutter's Fort and then this voluntary army took over Sonoma. Frémont's army was involved in the capture of Sonoma. This was Frémont's military gesture to the rebel Californians that the United States supported thier Bear Flag Revolt. Cmguy777 ( talk) 19:41, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
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Jeff in CA, I don't understand your revert or edit summary. This article is about a large region, not a specific city yet you quote a guideline about a city. Not to mention there is no indication of what "historical norms" would apply in this case.
WP:COORDPREC says precision should be approximately one-tenth the size of the object
. Seconds should not be used here. If the coords were for a specific city (i.e. the capital), they should be in the infobox and even then seconds are too precise. (note that in this case, the infobox says there was NO capital in a comment). @
Deor, do you have a comment?
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Why is the map of modern-day California included in this article? The Bear Flaggers did not have any territorial control outside Sonoma, nor they represented the majority of Californians. Besides, the limits of California at that time were different from the current limits, as the border between Mexican California and British Oregon had not been clearly established, and the states of Nevada and Arizona had not yet been created. Besides, the limit between modern-day Mexico and modern-day California was not established either. For the same reason, the area in the infobox is misleading too, as it corresponds to modern-day California.
Bancroft describes how Torre tricked Fremont and his men into leaving Sausalito to return to Sonoma, so that Torre escaped from the area through Sausalito and across San Pablo Bay, to join the other two commanders of Mexican troops in their retreat to Santa Clara. This is an interesting piece of the story. May I suggest it be told in this article? Jeff in CA ( talk) 15:46, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
I'm writing this to support undoing a edit that changed Frémont's rank on July 5, 1846 from "Brevet Captain" to "Major (brevet lieutenant colonel)". Frémont was promoted to major by Robert F. Stockton some time after Stockton was put in charge of land operations by Commodore John D. Sloat on July 23, 1846 (Bancroft V:page 253). President Polk had signed a commission for Frémont as Lieutenant Colonel in May, 1846 but that wasn't known in California until October. Gets complicated. Dean95452 ( talk) 20:43, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
I just wanted to verify that this is correct: "Here the sheet was folded and worn in-two, and no more is found". Is it "worn in-two" or "torn in-two"? 42engineer ( talk) 22:19, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
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Frémont had signed up American immigrants at Sutter's Fort and then this voluntary army took over Sonoma. Frémont's army was involved in the capture of Sonoma. This was Frémont's military gesture to the rebel Californians that the United States supported thier Bear Flag Revolt. Cmguy777 ( talk) 19:41, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
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Jeff in CA, I don't understand your revert or edit summary. This article is about a large region, not a specific city yet you quote a guideline about a city. Not to mention there is no indication of what "historical norms" would apply in this case.
WP:COORDPREC says precision should be approximately one-tenth the size of the object
. Seconds should not be used here. If the coords were for a specific city (i.e. the capital), they should be in the infobox and even then seconds are too precise. (note that in this case, the infobox says there was NO capital in a comment). @
Deor, do you have a comment?
MB 16:43, 14 October 2022 (UTC)