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Mention the 'Byzantine Capitol' as featured in the Agia Sophia?

Hagia Sophia is already mentioned, but I agree that it is the most famous example of Byzantine architecture. Valentinian (talk) 21:17, 2 July 2006 (UTC) reply
Sorry my friend I think you misunderstand me, I meant the Byzantine 'Capitol' in the sense of a column (like 'corinthian capitol').
That's " capital". "Capitol" is what you call a building that's the seat of a legislature or government. TCC (talk) (contribs) 02:24, 3 July 2006 (UTC) reply
I'm no expert on the subject, but in Constantinople many different varieties were used, "The Byzantine Churches of Istanbul" is a good source in this respect. Commons has images of a few examples: Image:Istanbul_-_Museo_archeologico_-_Capitello_bizantino_-_Foto_G._Dall'Orto_28-5-2006.jpg, Image:Hagia_Sophia_08.JPG, and Image:Saint_Sophia_Interior_(Istambul).JPG. A closeup image also exists, but its quality is too poor.
I haven't found any free images of a few other varieties (sorry, if I accidentally list the same version twice). In The Byzantine Churches of Istanbul they are listed as: image no. 1-10 and 1-11 (Hagios Andreas en te Krisei), 5-4, 5-5 (Beyazit churches A, B, and C), 8-12 and 8-13 (Christos tes Choras), 10-22 (Christos ho Pantokrator), 11-29 to 11-34 (Hagia Eirene), 14-4 (Hagios Ioannes en to Hebdomo), 15-2, 15-3 and 15-20 (Hagios Ioannes Prodromos en tois Stoudiou), 26-3 to 26-6 (Hagios Polyeuktos - the examples used in this church are rare examples of an early, very elaborate style), 34-2 (Theotokos ton Chalkoprateion), 35-22 (Theotokos tou Libos, which also has a nice base: 35-25), 40-14 (Vefa Kilise Camii). Unfortunately, these images are still copyrighted, but they can be viewed here: [1]. It is an interesting topic, but unfortunately I don't have the expert knowledge needed to write about them myself. Valentinian (talk) 10:24, 3 July 2006 (UTC) reply
Last two images were the ones I was talking about. I don't have the knowledge to write about them either, in fact, I doubt there are many who do.
In those NYU images it's interesting to see the Byzantine versions of Ionic capitals as well as the more familiar lacework foliage of Byzantine Corinthian capitals. -- Wetman 19:49, 3 July 2006 (UTC) reply

Byzantine bridges

Would you be interested in a photo or two of the Byzantine bridge over the Iasmos Gorge in Greece? I have a few showing one of the arches and some of the stonework. It would be nice to see some comment on Byzantine bridges in the article; they are pretty amazing -- and it would be interesting to know how the builders kept everything together until they put those last few stones in the arch! (Presumably, there was lots of scaffolding holding them up...) MeegsC | Talk 14:36, 18 May 2007 (UTC) reply

Buildings, features and types of buildings list

Should this list be in this article? I think it's a good idea for the following reasons: the links are more extensive than those used in the article itself, more convenient and accessable than combing the article, provide space for relevant links with no proper place in the rest of the article, and are gathered together on no other page. On the other hand, maybe the list should have its own page and be subdivided by category. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.22.122.132 ( talk) 03:04, 25 January 2008 (UTC) reply

I think that, as it stands, the list is useless - all the relevant information should be in a category. The more important terms and buildings should be in the text - and many of them are. This is certainly the place for a link to a term such as dome, which is by no means specific to Byzantine architecture. A list which carries some additional information could merit its own article - for example, a list of Byzantine architecture subdivided by country or by period could be a useful resource. Warofdreams talk 17:02, 25 January 2008 (UTC) reply
I've been looking at the categories and they're pretty thin. I think I'll try to add this information there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.22.122.132 ( talk) 04:04, 26 January 2008 (UTC) reply
Good plan. Warofdreams talk 00:04, 27 January 2008 (UTC) reply

Non-Church Architecture?

This article is well written, but it is too narrow. One would almost believe that all that the Romans/Byzantines built over a millennium or so were churches. They did build a lot, but they also built homes, palaces, aqueducts, fortifications, monuments, etc. I realize that the churches have survived the most with the least alteration, but there are SOME examples of other kinds of architecture, even if it is only infrastructure like the famous Basilica Cistern. Can anyone flesh this article out to cover Byzantine Architecture and not just Byzantine Church Architecture? TheCormac ( talk) 00:58, 10 April 2012 (UTC) reply

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Unclear comparison.

“ Other widely used materials were bricks and stone, not just marble like in Classical antiquity.”

I cannot tell whether the writer means that buildings in Constantinople used materials different from, or the same as, Classical Antiquity.

If different from, maybe rephrase as: “Unlike in Classical Antiquity, Byzantine architecture used brick and stone in addition to marble.”

If the same as, maybe rephrase like this: “As in the architecture of Classical Antiquity, Byzantine architecture used brick and stone in addition to marble.” E A ( talk) 13:47, 3 July 2021 (UTC) reply

Placement of Hagia Sophia at bottom?

should H. Irene and Hagia Sophia be incorporated into the main overview of buildings section rather than separate at the bottom? FineCreatures ( talk) 16:59, 30 December 2023 (UTC) reply

Eyewitness Companions: Architecture

> When the Roman Empire became Christian ...

This part is copy-pasted from the book "Eyewitness Companions: Architecture" ( https://books.google.ru/books?id=_leHhzKlI7kC&pg=PA124#v=onepage&q&f=false) 178.69.124.156 ( talk) 16:17, 16 March 2024 (UTC) reply

Appearance of church layout: Masmiyah temple

See Talk:Al-Masmiyah#Was the temple ''modified'' to be used as a church?.

Was that a simply repurposed pagan building that became a model for later church developments? Or was it modified according to an already shaped concept of a church building? Arminden ( talk) 14:11, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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Mention the 'Byzantine Capitol' as featured in the Agia Sophia?

Hagia Sophia is already mentioned, but I agree that it is the most famous example of Byzantine architecture. Valentinian (talk) 21:17, 2 July 2006 (UTC) reply
Sorry my friend I think you misunderstand me, I meant the Byzantine 'Capitol' in the sense of a column (like 'corinthian capitol').
That's " capital". "Capitol" is what you call a building that's the seat of a legislature or government. TCC (talk) (contribs) 02:24, 3 July 2006 (UTC) reply
I'm no expert on the subject, but in Constantinople many different varieties were used, "The Byzantine Churches of Istanbul" is a good source in this respect. Commons has images of a few examples: Image:Istanbul_-_Museo_archeologico_-_Capitello_bizantino_-_Foto_G._Dall'Orto_28-5-2006.jpg, Image:Hagia_Sophia_08.JPG, and Image:Saint_Sophia_Interior_(Istambul).JPG. A closeup image also exists, but its quality is too poor.
I haven't found any free images of a few other varieties (sorry, if I accidentally list the same version twice). In The Byzantine Churches of Istanbul they are listed as: image no. 1-10 and 1-11 (Hagios Andreas en te Krisei), 5-4, 5-5 (Beyazit churches A, B, and C), 8-12 and 8-13 (Christos tes Choras), 10-22 (Christos ho Pantokrator), 11-29 to 11-34 (Hagia Eirene), 14-4 (Hagios Ioannes en to Hebdomo), 15-2, 15-3 and 15-20 (Hagios Ioannes Prodromos en tois Stoudiou), 26-3 to 26-6 (Hagios Polyeuktos - the examples used in this church are rare examples of an early, very elaborate style), 34-2 (Theotokos ton Chalkoprateion), 35-22 (Theotokos tou Libos, which also has a nice base: 35-25), 40-14 (Vefa Kilise Camii). Unfortunately, these images are still copyrighted, but they can be viewed here: [1]. It is an interesting topic, but unfortunately I don't have the expert knowledge needed to write about them myself. Valentinian (talk) 10:24, 3 July 2006 (UTC) reply
Last two images were the ones I was talking about. I don't have the knowledge to write about them either, in fact, I doubt there are many who do.
In those NYU images it's interesting to see the Byzantine versions of Ionic capitals as well as the more familiar lacework foliage of Byzantine Corinthian capitals. -- Wetman 19:49, 3 July 2006 (UTC) reply

Byzantine bridges

Would you be interested in a photo or two of the Byzantine bridge over the Iasmos Gorge in Greece? I have a few showing one of the arches and some of the stonework. It would be nice to see some comment on Byzantine bridges in the article; they are pretty amazing -- and it would be interesting to know how the builders kept everything together until they put those last few stones in the arch! (Presumably, there was lots of scaffolding holding them up...) MeegsC | Talk 14:36, 18 May 2007 (UTC) reply

Buildings, features and types of buildings list

Should this list be in this article? I think it's a good idea for the following reasons: the links are more extensive than those used in the article itself, more convenient and accessable than combing the article, provide space for relevant links with no proper place in the rest of the article, and are gathered together on no other page. On the other hand, maybe the list should have its own page and be subdivided by category. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.22.122.132 ( talk) 03:04, 25 January 2008 (UTC) reply

I think that, as it stands, the list is useless - all the relevant information should be in a category. The more important terms and buildings should be in the text - and many of them are. This is certainly the place for a link to a term such as dome, which is by no means specific to Byzantine architecture. A list which carries some additional information could merit its own article - for example, a list of Byzantine architecture subdivided by country or by period could be a useful resource. Warofdreams talk 17:02, 25 January 2008 (UTC) reply
I've been looking at the categories and they're pretty thin. I think I'll try to add this information there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.22.122.132 ( talk) 04:04, 26 January 2008 (UTC) reply
Good plan. Warofdreams talk 00:04, 27 January 2008 (UTC) reply

Non-Church Architecture?

This article is well written, but it is too narrow. One would almost believe that all that the Romans/Byzantines built over a millennium or so were churches. They did build a lot, but they also built homes, palaces, aqueducts, fortifications, monuments, etc. I realize that the churches have survived the most with the least alteration, but there are SOME examples of other kinds of architecture, even if it is only infrastructure like the famous Basilica Cistern. Can anyone flesh this article out to cover Byzantine Architecture and not just Byzantine Church Architecture? TheCormac ( talk) 00:58, 10 April 2012 (UTC) reply

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Hello Wikipedians,

I have added an important monuments section and included some of the most important examples of byzantine architecture. Please take a minute to look over my edits and feel free to add any additional information or comments and please look over my work. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rylienicolee ( talkcontribs) 07:16, 22 November 2018 (UTC) reply

Unclear comparison.

“ Other widely used materials were bricks and stone, not just marble like in Classical antiquity.”

I cannot tell whether the writer means that buildings in Constantinople used materials different from, or the same as, Classical Antiquity.

If different from, maybe rephrase as: “Unlike in Classical Antiquity, Byzantine architecture used brick and stone in addition to marble.”

If the same as, maybe rephrase like this: “As in the architecture of Classical Antiquity, Byzantine architecture used brick and stone in addition to marble.” E A ( talk) 13:47, 3 July 2021 (UTC) reply

Placement of Hagia Sophia at bottom?

should H. Irene and Hagia Sophia be incorporated into the main overview of buildings section rather than separate at the bottom? FineCreatures ( talk) 16:59, 30 December 2023 (UTC) reply

Eyewitness Companions: Architecture

> When the Roman Empire became Christian ...

This part is copy-pasted from the book "Eyewitness Companions: Architecture" ( https://books.google.ru/books?id=_leHhzKlI7kC&pg=PA124#v=onepage&q&f=false) 178.69.124.156 ( talk) 16:17, 16 March 2024 (UTC) reply

Appearance of church layout: Masmiyah temple

See Talk:Al-Masmiyah#Was the temple ''modified'' to be used as a church?.

Was that a simply repurposed pagan building that became a model for later church developments? Or was it modified according to an already shaped concept of a church building? Arminden ( talk) 14:11, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply


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