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Shouldn't the title be the Bull Moose Party with the official name mentioned in the first paragraph rather than the other way around? Every history book I've ever encountered - and large parts of this article - refer to it almost exclusively as the Bull Moose Party. From the first paragraph, you don't even get a sense that the "nickname" was important. I would obviously be in favor of this change, but wanted to know what everyone else thinks before changing a title.
Where is the proof that Roosevelt elected Woodrow Wilson, by "allowing him" to win with a plurality of the vote? What definitive sources with EVIDENCE believe this? Also, the article cites some who said Wilson would have won 1912 anyway. I want a citation. Tallicfan20 ( talk) 02:20, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
If the claim in the article that Roosevelt won 4.1 million votes is correct, then that could easily be taken as evidence in support of the Wilson-wins-because-of-Roosevelt thesis. The only I would check is whether or not anyone has done a breakdonw of the Roosevelt vote to judge how much of it came from likely Republican voters and whether some Democrats may have cast a vote for him as well. If we assume that all of the votes cast for Roosevelt came from the traditionally Republican electorate, then that sets down an argument that Wilson only won because of the division in the Republican vote created by Roosevelt. If half of the Roosevelt votes came from the Democratic electorate, then one can assume that Wilson would have won anyway. Does anyone know of any studies done on the electorate which voted for the Progressive Party which would tell us something about which of these possibilities is correct? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.247.137.87 ( talk) 02:41, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
Roosevelt's statement was "I feel fit as a bull moose"
The article's title should reflect the fact that it existed for 4 years. GoodDay ( talk) 17:58, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
then the undo could not be undo. i just wanted to make an indented quotation. sorry to the editors! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.21.106.137 ( talk) 11:06, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
After all, Taft was President through all of 1912's election campaign, indeed all of 1912, not Wilson. Wilson wasn't President until March 4th the following year. 2001:8003:4032:8700:E5ED:2044:125:7F25 ( talk) 09:57, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
There is a line that says:
Progressive Republican leader Robert La Follette had already announced a challenge to Taft for the 1912 Republican nomination, but many of his supporters shifted to Roosevelt after the former president decided to seek a third presidential term, which was permissible under the United States Constitution prior to the ratification of the Twenty-second Amendment.
The twenty-second amendment would not have stopped Roosevelt -- he only won one term as President, in 1904. He gained the Presidency from the assassination of McKinley, much in the same way Johnson did from Kennedy, and Johnson was eligible to run in 1968 but he chose not to. I'm going to fix this in the text, but since I expect it to be reversed out by someone ignorant of the US Constitution, I'll leave this here as the record of the truth. 2001:8003:4032:8700:E5ED:2044:125:7F25 ( talk) 10:02, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
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In Vermont the progressive party is alive and well. It has a few seats in the legislature. I would update it to say it still exists Steakismeat ( talk) 15:34, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
Was it a third party? It was a solid second party in the 1912 presidential election. -- Yomal Sidoroff-Biarmskii ( talk) 22:58, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
A website for the Progressive Party shows that this is still an active party, which claims direct lineage from the party of 1912
https://progressivepartyusa.com/
Should the article be updated to reflect the Progressive Party's status as a current party, or should a new article be made for this modern party?
Jade Phoenix Pence ( talk) 01:12, 4 September 2019 (UTC)Jade Phoenix Pence
In the political position of the party it is mentioned that it is a centre-left to left-wing party which is in fact completely false. You see, progressivism in the US back then had nothing to do with today's progressivism and could even be described as liberal conservatism in today's world. So I am suggesting that the position of the party is changed from the one mentioned before to Centre to Centre-right. Alexispapp ( talk) 20:32, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
Progressives back then supported extending the industry though, which can be described as a right wing policy in today's world.
Alexispapp ( talk) 13:00, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
Tdr also once suggested that "we must stave off socialism" . I'm trying to send you to articles proving that but it indicates "error, edit not saved" can someone explain to me how to do that:) Alexispapp ( talk) 13:04, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
Some sources describing them as right-wing. [1] [2] [3] [4] Zyxrq ( talk) 23:51, 17 November 2022 (UTC)
The article says that the party dissolved in 2020 but doesn't provide a citation or expand on the party's dissolution in any section. Can someone provided well-sourced information on how (or if) the party came to an end?
Flameoguy ( talk) 05:41, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
The article says that the party dissolved in 2020 but doesn't provide a citation or expand on the party's dissolution in any section. Can someone provided well-sourced information on how (or if) the party came to an end?
Flameoguy ( talk) 05:41, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Moved. ( closed by non-admin page mover) Adumbrativus ( talk) 07:16, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
Progressive Party (United States, 1912–1920) → Bull Moose Party – Easily the WP:COMMONNAME. Ancient mumbling ignorant of that policy does not contested consensus make. Remsense 诉 01:24, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
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Shouldn't the title be the Bull Moose Party with the official name mentioned in the first paragraph rather than the other way around? Every history book I've ever encountered - and large parts of this article - refer to it almost exclusively as the Bull Moose Party. From the first paragraph, you don't even get a sense that the "nickname" was important. I would obviously be in favor of this change, but wanted to know what everyone else thinks before changing a title.
Where is the proof that Roosevelt elected Woodrow Wilson, by "allowing him" to win with a plurality of the vote? What definitive sources with EVIDENCE believe this? Also, the article cites some who said Wilson would have won 1912 anyway. I want a citation. Tallicfan20 ( talk) 02:20, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
If the claim in the article that Roosevelt won 4.1 million votes is correct, then that could easily be taken as evidence in support of the Wilson-wins-because-of-Roosevelt thesis. The only I would check is whether or not anyone has done a breakdonw of the Roosevelt vote to judge how much of it came from likely Republican voters and whether some Democrats may have cast a vote for him as well. If we assume that all of the votes cast for Roosevelt came from the traditionally Republican electorate, then that sets down an argument that Wilson only won because of the division in the Republican vote created by Roosevelt. If half of the Roosevelt votes came from the Democratic electorate, then one can assume that Wilson would have won anyway. Does anyone know of any studies done on the electorate which voted for the Progressive Party which would tell us something about which of these possibilities is correct? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.247.137.87 ( talk) 02:41, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
Roosevelt's statement was "I feel fit as a bull moose"
The article's title should reflect the fact that it existed for 4 years. GoodDay ( talk) 17:58, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
then the undo could not be undo. i just wanted to make an indented quotation. sorry to the editors! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.21.106.137 ( talk) 11:06, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
After all, Taft was President through all of 1912's election campaign, indeed all of 1912, not Wilson. Wilson wasn't President until March 4th the following year. 2001:8003:4032:8700:E5ED:2044:125:7F25 ( talk) 09:57, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
There is a line that says:
Progressive Republican leader Robert La Follette had already announced a challenge to Taft for the 1912 Republican nomination, but many of his supporters shifted to Roosevelt after the former president decided to seek a third presidential term, which was permissible under the United States Constitution prior to the ratification of the Twenty-second Amendment.
The twenty-second amendment would not have stopped Roosevelt -- he only won one term as President, in 1904. He gained the Presidency from the assassination of McKinley, much in the same way Johnson did from Kennedy, and Johnson was eligible to run in 1968 but he chose not to. I'm going to fix this in the text, but since I expect it to be reversed out by someone ignorant of the US Constitution, I'll leave this here as the record of the truth. 2001:8003:4032:8700:E5ED:2044:125:7F25 ( talk) 10:02, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
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In Vermont the progressive party is alive and well. It has a few seats in the legislature. I would update it to say it still exists Steakismeat ( talk) 15:34, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
Was it a third party? It was a solid second party in the 1912 presidential election. -- Yomal Sidoroff-Biarmskii ( talk) 22:58, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
A website for the Progressive Party shows that this is still an active party, which claims direct lineage from the party of 1912
https://progressivepartyusa.com/
Should the article be updated to reflect the Progressive Party's status as a current party, or should a new article be made for this modern party?
Jade Phoenix Pence ( talk) 01:12, 4 September 2019 (UTC)Jade Phoenix Pence
In the political position of the party it is mentioned that it is a centre-left to left-wing party which is in fact completely false. You see, progressivism in the US back then had nothing to do with today's progressivism and could even be described as liberal conservatism in today's world. So I am suggesting that the position of the party is changed from the one mentioned before to Centre to Centre-right. Alexispapp ( talk) 20:32, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
Progressives back then supported extending the industry though, which can be described as a right wing policy in today's world.
Alexispapp ( talk) 13:00, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
Tdr also once suggested that "we must stave off socialism" . I'm trying to send you to articles proving that but it indicates "error, edit not saved" can someone explain to me how to do that:) Alexispapp ( talk) 13:04, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
Some sources describing them as right-wing. [1] [2] [3] [4] Zyxrq ( talk) 23:51, 17 November 2022 (UTC)
The article says that the party dissolved in 2020 but doesn't provide a citation or expand on the party's dissolution in any section. Can someone provided well-sourced information on how (or if) the party came to an end?
Flameoguy ( talk) 05:41, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
The article says that the party dissolved in 2020 but doesn't provide a citation or expand on the party's dissolution in any section. Can someone provided well-sourced information on how (or if) the party came to an end?
Flameoguy ( talk) 05:41, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Moved. ( closed by non-admin page mover) Adumbrativus ( talk) 07:16, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
Progressive Party (United States, 1912–1920) → Bull Moose Party – Easily the WP:COMMONNAME. Ancient mumbling ignorant of that policy does not contested consensus make. Remsense 诉 01:24, 18 March 2024 (UTC)