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this article should just be thrown out. it has nothing to do with the real boston hardcore scene. hardcore ended in about 85, and this page is mostly about the "post hardcore" bands that came after it. and then lots of bullshit made up by people who wish they were there, including fsu and all the silly bands with bagpipes and shit

bullshit, hardcore didn't end in '85. I've been around since the 80s and it's still going strong.


and who the fuck is eric devoe? singer for the Combat Zone, 2010s Boston hardcore band.

somebody make a real page or dont have one at all

Inaccurate Title

This page should be renamed "Boston Hardcore Punk Community" or something more specific that Boston hardcore. There are many thing people would consider "hardcore" related to Boston. Article does not read like an encyclopedia article. Please remember people, this project is an attempt to create an open source encyclopedia, not a medium for the promotion of a genre of music. Everything contributed to this article must be verifiable so most likely contributions from a "historian" of a criminal gang would not be verifiable in the academic sense.

Anonymous Contribution

someone who's involved in the scene punch this shit up. -9917 seriously. the last section is terribly written, and theres no mention of FSU anywhere. Yeah, the last section is horrible. Totally biased, and just really dumb. It needs a fix. -some nerd who probably has never been to boston

Cleanup

That "Boston's hardcore bands were leftist" must be a joke, and I therefore removed that line. They're weren't specifically right-wing either, but they definitely didn't have a leftist stance, The Freeze being perhaps the exception. Someone must have written this as a joke. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.89.208.250 ( talk) 16:35, 27 February 2008 (UTC) reply

There are so many mistakes with comma usage. Also, it needs to be formatted either into sections or at least so it is easily readable. Finally, this article is CLEARLY extremely biased towards the Boston hardcore scene and does not site sources when it claims that the Boston hardcore scene "is one of the biggest hardcore punk scenes in the United States" and that it "is due in part to the city's working class tradition, large college presence and independent record labels." Please make this a respectable article! -- User: some virgin who works at radio shack 07:39, 23 July 2006 (UTC) reply

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"epitome of awesomeness" has no place on wikipedia. the artical is very relevent, but need tweeking. also needs mention of FSU and the history of FSU.

-someone who isn't in fsu ................

This article is very biased! There's no mention of Bob Lobel, Colleen Cornell, Dave from Bad Abbots, or Wendall Kim. Also, some of these aspiring FSU historians need to get cracking and DIY! "Freedom means freedom for everyone." -Vice President Dick Cheney


There definitely needs to be a history and explanation of FSU in any explanation of Boston hardcore. I'm just not up for doing it at the moment. Also no mention of Blood for Blood, Death Before Dishonor etc etc.... Needs work. -FSU member

they did mention Blood For Blood, but only in reference to hardline straightedge...? As for FSU mentions, someone should create a separate page for it and refer to that from this page.

Hey, what happened to the paragraph about the Boston hardcore bands of the late 80's? Slapshot, Wrecking Crew, Crossface, Eye for an Eye, Maelstrom, Suckerpunch... these bands brought in influences from NY hardcore and thrash metal, and further cemented the 'hard' reputation of the Boston scene. The Taang compilation "Boston Hardcore 88-91" is still in print and gets regular radio play on hardcore shows around the northeast. Maybe not as important as "This is Boston Not LA" but still, if there's going to be a Boston Hardcore entry it should be more comprehensive.


FYI, the link to Eye for an Eye is not correct. The Eye for an Eye referenced to was not from Poland :) And I also agree with the above comments about Slapshot, Wrecking Crew, Crossface, Eye for an Eye, Maelstrom, Suckerpunch... The Hardcore scene didn't end in the 80's. Also, what about Al Quint and the Suburban Voice generation like Said and Done, Third Degree and the H2Crew (band names escape me).

-Steve (Third Degree)

Seth Putnam

I think someone should make an article about Seth Putnam and his various bands. He's a boston legend. ---ummm---- You forgot to mention Bane! Bane is from worcester. This needs to be a little more indepth so u need to tie in the old punk scene like "The Rat". Its all a rich tapestry people.

Rebuilding

  • I have started to clean 'this shit up' I need input from as many people as possible. Rock on Markco1
    • Article is starting to come together - thanks all for the adjustments to my edits and the addition of bands. Please add what you know of venues - That section needs some work. I am working on THe Boston Scene through Project Boston. I need as many people as possible to help out. Rock on. Markco1 03:35, 24 November 2006 (UTC) reply
    • Changing back to "on the common" from "at the common". Hard to explain but that is how it is said in Boston you can see on the first page of http://www.helloboston.com/BookFiles/INTRO38.pdf where they also use on the common

Citation

Added some citation hope this addresses concerns - I will remove the citatioon tag if it is believed more are needed please indicate where. Markco1 19:23, 8 January 2007 (UTC) reply


Quiet in the 2000s?

The Boston hardcore scene has been relatively quiet on the musical front in the 2000s, although bands like Death Before Dishonor, For The Worse, and Mouth Sewn Shut keep it going...

The person who wrote that can never have heard of bands like Give Up the Ghost, Converge or The Hope Conspiracy. It might be "relatively quiet" now (I don't know), but to say that about the 2000s as a whole is just not true. -- x-Flare-x{ Talk) 10:15, 12 March 2007 (UTC) reply

Biased

Thankfully Avalon, Axis, and Bill's Bar were to demolished in the fall of 2007 to make room for a larger venue that would be aimed towards more mainstream national acts.

"Thankfully"? Why thankfully, exactly? Definitely not NPOV. —Preceding unsigned comment added by McFlynnTHM ( talkcontribs) 12:05, 7 February 2008 (UTC) reply

Overhaul

Tbh the only thing that can save this page is some TNT. I will go scouting for sources. -- Guerillero | My Talk 04:35, 2 December 2010 (UTC) reply

If you want to work on overhull this with me it can be found at User:Guerillero/Boston hardcore -- Guerillero | My Talk 20:12, 2 December 2010 (UTC) reply
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this article should just be thrown out. it has nothing to do with the real boston hardcore scene. hardcore ended in about 85, and this page is mostly about the "post hardcore" bands that came after it. and then lots of bullshit made up by people who wish they were there, including fsu and all the silly bands with bagpipes and shit

bullshit, hardcore didn't end in '85. I've been around since the 80s and it's still going strong.


and who the fuck is eric devoe? singer for the Combat Zone, 2010s Boston hardcore band.

somebody make a real page or dont have one at all

Inaccurate Title

This page should be renamed "Boston Hardcore Punk Community" or something more specific that Boston hardcore. There are many thing people would consider "hardcore" related to Boston. Article does not read like an encyclopedia article. Please remember people, this project is an attempt to create an open source encyclopedia, not a medium for the promotion of a genre of music. Everything contributed to this article must be verifiable so most likely contributions from a "historian" of a criminal gang would not be verifiable in the academic sense.

Anonymous Contribution

someone who's involved in the scene punch this shit up. -9917 seriously. the last section is terribly written, and theres no mention of FSU anywhere. Yeah, the last section is horrible. Totally biased, and just really dumb. It needs a fix. -some nerd who probably has never been to boston

Cleanup

That "Boston's hardcore bands were leftist" must be a joke, and I therefore removed that line. They're weren't specifically right-wing either, but they definitely didn't have a leftist stance, The Freeze being perhaps the exception. Someone must have written this as a joke. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.89.208.250 ( talk) 16:35, 27 February 2008 (UTC) reply

There are so many mistakes with comma usage. Also, it needs to be formatted either into sections or at least so it is easily readable. Finally, this article is CLEARLY extremely biased towards the Boston hardcore scene and does not site sources when it claims that the Boston hardcore scene "is one of the biggest hardcore punk scenes in the United States" and that it "is due in part to the city's working class tradition, large college presence and independent record labels." Please make this a respectable article! -- User: some virgin who works at radio shack 07:39, 23 July 2006 (UTC) reply

...

"epitome of awesomeness" has no place on wikipedia. the artical is very relevent, but need tweeking. also needs mention of FSU and the history of FSU.

-someone who isn't in fsu ................

This article is very biased! There's no mention of Bob Lobel, Colleen Cornell, Dave from Bad Abbots, or Wendall Kim. Also, some of these aspiring FSU historians need to get cracking and DIY! "Freedom means freedom for everyone." -Vice President Dick Cheney


There definitely needs to be a history and explanation of FSU in any explanation of Boston hardcore. I'm just not up for doing it at the moment. Also no mention of Blood for Blood, Death Before Dishonor etc etc.... Needs work. -FSU member

they did mention Blood For Blood, but only in reference to hardline straightedge...? As for FSU mentions, someone should create a separate page for it and refer to that from this page.

Hey, what happened to the paragraph about the Boston hardcore bands of the late 80's? Slapshot, Wrecking Crew, Crossface, Eye for an Eye, Maelstrom, Suckerpunch... these bands brought in influences from NY hardcore and thrash metal, and further cemented the 'hard' reputation of the Boston scene. The Taang compilation "Boston Hardcore 88-91" is still in print and gets regular radio play on hardcore shows around the northeast. Maybe not as important as "This is Boston Not LA" but still, if there's going to be a Boston Hardcore entry it should be more comprehensive.


FYI, the link to Eye for an Eye is not correct. The Eye for an Eye referenced to was not from Poland :) And I also agree with the above comments about Slapshot, Wrecking Crew, Crossface, Eye for an Eye, Maelstrom, Suckerpunch... The Hardcore scene didn't end in the 80's. Also, what about Al Quint and the Suburban Voice generation like Said and Done, Third Degree and the H2Crew (band names escape me).

-Steve (Third Degree)

Seth Putnam

I think someone should make an article about Seth Putnam and his various bands. He's a boston legend. ---ummm---- You forgot to mention Bane! Bane is from worcester. This needs to be a little more indepth so u need to tie in the old punk scene like "The Rat". Its all a rich tapestry people.

Rebuilding

  • I have started to clean 'this shit up' I need input from as many people as possible. Rock on Markco1
    • Article is starting to come together - thanks all for the adjustments to my edits and the addition of bands. Please add what you know of venues - That section needs some work. I am working on THe Boston Scene through Project Boston. I need as many people as possible to help out. Rock on. Markco1 03:35, 24 November 2006 (UTC) reply
    • Changing back to "on the common" from "at the common". Hard to explain but that is how it is said in Boston you can see on the first page of http://www.helloboston.com/BookFiles/INTRO38.pdf where they also use on the common

Citation

Added some citation hope this addresses concerns - I will remove the citatioon tag if it is believed more are needed please indicate where. Markco1 19:23, 8 January 2007 (UTC) reply


Quiet in the 2000s?

The Boston hardcore scene has been relatively quiet on the musical front in the 2000s, although bands like Death Before Dishonor, For The Worse, and Mouth Sewn Shut keep it going...

The person who wrote that can never have heard of bands like Give Up the Ghost, Converge or The Hope Conspiracy. It might be "relatively quiet" now (I don't know), but to say that about the 2000s as a whole is just not true. -- x-Flare-x{ Talk) 10:15, 12 March 2007 (UTC) reply

Biased

Thankfully Avalon, Axis, and Bill's Bar were to demolished in the fall of 2007 to make room for a larger venue that would be aimed towards more mainstream national acts.

"Thankfully"? Why thankfully, exactly? Definitely not NPOV. —Preceding unsigned comment added by McFlynnTHM ( talkcontribs) 12:05, 7 February 2008 (UTC) reply

Overhaul

Tbh the only thing that can save this page is some TNT. I will go scouting for sources. -- Guerillero | My Talk 04:35, 2 December 2010 (UTC) reply

If you want to work on overhull this with me it can be found at User:Guerillero/Boston hardcore -- Guerillero | My Talk 20:12, 2 December 2010 (UTC) reply

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