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It is clear from the Boston University web site AND from the web site of the BU School of Management that the formal name of this part of BU is "School of Management" not "Graduate School of Management" so I have flipped the re-direct to place the article under "School of Management" and redirect from "Graduate School of Management. BU does not have an entity called "Graduate School of Management. It has a School of Management that offeres both undergraduate and graduate degrees.
Pzavon 01:54, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
If you look at http://www.bu.edu/apply/graduate.html you will see that there is in fact a "Graduate School of Management (GSM)" which is not the same as the "School of Management (SMG)." As a current student in the "GRADUATE School of Management" I can also attest to the fact that the two schools are indeed separate. If you do not believe this, feel free to contact (GSM's) Graduate Programs Office. If you have no comment on this within the next 24 hours, I will revert to the page before your changes.
I honestly can't beleive I'm having a discussion on whether the existence of the school that I and over 800 others currently attend, is in question. When school was still in session, we heard and saw GSM virtually everyday whether it was from the Dean's office or the Graduate Programs Office. I can even forward you a copy of the "GSM Weekly Update" created by the Graduate Programs Office. This is not to mention, that we applied to the Graduate School of Management! I understand that both the undergraduate school and the graduate school both use the same logo, although this is just more for an informal convenience than anything else. In addition, the undergraduate school primarily uses http://smg.bu.edu/leadership/index.html instead of http://management.bu.edu/index.html which is primarily used by GSM.
I also don't understand why you discredit http://www.bu.edu/apply/graduate.html where it clearly states "GRADUATE SCHOOL OF MANAGEMENT." Also take notice of the fact that MBA students apply directly to GSM whereas undergraduate students apply to the University's general Office of Admissions. I strongly urge you to contact the Graduate Programs Office at GSM, the phone number is (617) 353-2670.
I think a solution for our disagreement will have to be to have two seperate wikipedia sites, one for SMG and one for GSM (which is what I would have preferred in the first place). The only reason why I directed the SMG site to the GSM site was because I thought it was better than nothing (and there was a little SMG info on the GSM site). If the founding date of GSM is what is bothering you, I will go to the Dean's office when I return to Boston late next week and set the record straight. I am also wondering how you are connected to the university that you have taken such a position against GSM? Please respond at your earliest convenience.
I'm sorry, I just checked my transcript and it specifically says "Admitted to the GRADUATE SCHOOL OF MANAGEMENT." In addition, under program of study it says "GSM Master of Business Administration". I also checked StudentLink where we register for classes. When selecting a course, one must first select the college and sure enough there is GSM in addition to SMG in the drop down menu. If you are a student, look it up on StudentLink yourself if you do not believe me.
In addition, if StudentLink and transcripts are not evidence enough, please check out a BusinessWeek Q&A with Catherine Ahlgren, the Director of the Career Center. There you will see a member of the administration specifically stating "GRADUATE SCHOOL OF MANAGEMENT". [2]
If any of this is still not enough, I am planning on going into school this week, I will stop by the Dean's office and get the official word.
Is it really appropriate to use a university infobox template in an article describing a school that is a component of a university? It would seem to suggest that SMG is on an equal footing with BU in general, which it most certainly is not.
Is there not an infobox template for schools within universities? If not, this is something that someone should remedy.
- Pjorg 00:36, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
I understand your concern, I'm not trying to put the management school on the same footing as the university. A number of business schools such as Wharton, Kellogg, and Yale use the same infobox so I did as well. I used a different info box for the GSM site, maybe we should change the SMG site to use a similar box.
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It is clear from the Boston University web site AND from the web site of the BU School of Management that the formal name of this part of BU is "School of Management" not "Graduate School of Management" so I have flipped the re-direct to place the article under "School of Management" and redirect from "Graduate School of Management. BU does not have an entity called "Graduate School of Management. It has a School of Management that offeres both undergraduate and graduate degrees.
Pzavon 01:54, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
If you look at http://www.bu.edu/apply/graduate.html you will see that there is in fact a "Graduate School of Management (GSM)" which is not the same as the "School of Management (SMG)." As a current student in the "GRADUATE School of Management" I can also attest to the fact that the two schools are indeed separate. If you do not believe this, feel free to contact (GSM's) Graduate Programs Office. If you have no comment on this within the next 24 hours, I will revert to the page before your changes.
I honestly can't beleive I'm having a discussion on whether the existence of the school that I and over 800 others currently attend, is in question. When school was still in session, we heard and saw GSM virtually everyday whether it was from the Dean's office or the Graduate Programs Office. I can even forward you a copy of the "GSM Weekly Update" created by the Graduate Programs Office. This is not to mention, that we applied to the Graduate School of Management! I understand that both the undergraduate school and the graduate school both use the same logo, although this is just more for an informal convenience than anything else. In addition, the undergraduate school primarily uses http://smg.bu.edu/leadership/index.html instead of http://management.bu.edu/index.html which is primarily used by GSM.
I also don't understand why you discredit http://www.bu.edu/apply/graduate.html where it clearly states "GRADUATE SCHOOL OF MANAGEMENT." Also take notice of the fact that MBA students apply directly to GSM whereas undergraduate students apply to the University's general Office of Admissions. I strongly urge you to contact the Graduate Programs Office at GSM, the phone number is (617) 353-2670.
I think a solution for our disagreement will have to be to have two seperate wikipedia sites, one for SMG and one for GSM (which is what I would have preferred in the first place). The only reason why I directed the SMG site to the GSM site was because I thought it was better than nothing (and there was a little SMG info on the GSM site). If the founding date of GSM is what is bothering you, I will go to the Dean's office when I return to Boston late next week and set the record straight. I am also wondering how you are connected to the university that you have taken such a position against GSM? Please respond at your earliest convenience.
I'm sorry, I just checked my transcript and it specifically says "Admitted to the GRADUATE SCHOOL OF MANAGEMENT." In addition, under program of study it says "GSM Master of Business Administration". I also checked StudentLink where we register for classes. When selecting a course, one must first select the college and sure enough there is GSM in addition to SMG in the drop down menu. If you are a student, look it up on StudentLink yourself if you do not believe me.
In addition, if StudentLink and transcripts are not evidence enough, please check out a BusinessWeek Q&A with Catherine Ahlgren, the Director of the Career Center. There you will see a member of the administration specifically stating "GRADUATE SCHOOL OF MANAGEMENT". [2]
If any of this is still not enough, I am planning on going into school this week, I will stop by the Dean's office and get the official word.
Is it really appropriate to use a university infobox template in an article describing a school that is a component of a university? It would seem to suggest that SMG is on an equal footing with BU in general, which it most certainly is not.
Is there not an infobox template for schools within universities? If not, this is something that someone should remedy.
- Pjorg 00:36, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
I understand your concern, I'm not trying to put the management school on the same footing as the university. A number of business schools such as Wharton, Kellogg, and Yale use the same infobox so I did as well. I used a different info box for the GSM site, maybe we should change the SMG site to use a similar box.
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