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According to NGC TV documentary at least seven people have been killed so far while racing at Boneville. The last fatality was in 2006.
Shouldn't the fastest ever diesel car be included in the table?
86.17.211.191 20:28, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
The description of the speedway is many years out-of-date. The Utah highway dept no longer prepares the "track". Each event must prepare their own, (and usually they don't share). Only a few events still use the "black line", and those that do, use them as side lines because they wear out too quickly in the middle. Other groups use cones or flags to mark their courses. I know this because I've worked as an official at nearly every race held there for the last 10 years, but editing the page would make my information from a primary source. Unfortunatly, I haven't been able to find any published descriptions about modern track preparations. What should I do? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jr9999 ( talk • contribs) 23:48, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
That table is essentially worthless without a column for 'Class' (added); however, somebody
who? needs to fill in the missing data. ~Eric [not me] F
184.76.225.106 (
talk) 10:36, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
Also added 'Notes' column, since table is described as "notable examples" (no notes, however) ~Eric F
184.76.225.106 (
talk) 11:24, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
Note to self[Eric F 184.76.225.106 ( talk) 11:55, 2 April 2012 (UTC)] -- or anybody else! who? Info from here needs to be added: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_speed_record
Why are you reverting facts already mentioned in the article. This non-stop display of reversion for minor reason has to stop. -- Falcadore ( talk) 16:12, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
For me its just a question of pride and stubborness. Considering this 2 sources: They Just Cancelled Speed Week At Bonneville For The Second Year In A Row and Utah’s famous Bonneville Salt Flats are disappearing in the first article we can read that in July 2015 (when 2015 Speed Week was cancelled) only 2,5 miles of track were available, when in a Speed Week they need a 9 mile track "Speed Week, which is just three weeks away, poses a much bigger challenge. Eyers is part of the crew who helps set up and design the race courses. A typical speed week involves six: 9-mile courses for the fastest racers who want to push 400 to 500 mph, a slightly shorter course for those going 300 mph, two more 3-mile courses for 200 mph runs, and a "mini" 2-mile course for people who want to see just how fast they can go on, for example, a folding bike that fit in their suitcase." I don't see any ambiguous declaration. Its clearly stated. Thus, for me, what is missing in the WP article, in "Deteriorating track conditions" its the efects of mining in the reducing of either track lenght and salt thickness, and its being decreasing every year. This sould be the focus not a this Frivolous reversion and arguments "I'm a better wikipedian then you". Rpo.castro ( talk) 11:01, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
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So regardless of any other arguements, regardless of justification, it's my fault because a request for a source is sacrosant. I can understand that. Must say that had not occurred to me and I should have known better. Thank you for the fast response TransporterMan. Additionally, thanks to Rpo.castro for content assessment. -- Falcadore ( talk) 12:25, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
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According to NGC TV documentary at least seven people have been killed so far while racing at Boneville. The last fatality was in 2006.
Shouldn't the fastest ever diesel car be included in the table?
86.17.211.191 20:28, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
The description of the speedway is many years out-of-date. The Utah highway dept no longer prepares the "track". Each event must prepare their own, (and usually they don't share). Only a few events still use the "black line", and those that do, use them as side lines because they wear out too quickly in the middle. Other groups use cones or flags to mark their courses. I know this because I've worked as an official at nearly every race held there for the last 10 years, but editing the page would make my information from a primary source. Unfortunatly, I haven't been able to find any published descriptions about modern track preparations. What should I do? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jr9999 ( talk • contribs) 23:48, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
That table is essentially worthless without a column for 'Class' (added); however, somebody
who? needs to fill in the missing data. ~Eric [not me] F
184.76.225.106 (
talk) 10:36, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
Also added 'Notes' column, since table is described as "notable examples" (no notes, however) ~Eric F
184.76.225.106 (
talk) 11:24, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
Note to self[Eric F 184.76.225.106 ( talk) 11:55, 2 April 2012 (UTC)] -- or anybody else! who? Info from here needs to be added: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_speed_record
Why are you reverting facts already mentioned in the article. This non-stop display of reversion for minor reason has to stop. -- Falcadore ( talk) 16:12, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
For me its just a question of pride and stubborness. Considering this 2 sources: They Just Cancelled Speed Week At Bonneville For The Second Year In A Row and Utah’s famous Bonneville Salt Flats are disappearing in the first article we can read that in July 2015 (when 2015 Speed Week was cancelled) only 2,5 miles of track were available, when in a Speed Week they need a 9 mile track "Speed Week, which is just three weeks away, poses a much bigger challenge. Eyers is part of the crew who helps set up and design the race courses. A typical speed week involves six: 9-mile courses for the fastest racers who want to push 400 to 500 mph, a slightly shorter course for those going 300 mph, two more 3-mile courses for 200 mph runs, and a "mini" 2-mile course for people who want to see just how fast they can go on, for example, a folding bike that fit in their suitcase." I don't see any ambiguous declaration. Its clearly stated. Thus, for me, what is missing in the WP article, in "Deteriorating track conditions" its the efects of mining in the reducing of either track lenght and salt thickness, and its being decreasing every year. This sould be the focus not a this Frivolous reversion and arguments "I'm a better wikipedian then you". Rpo.castro ( talk) 11:01, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
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Opinion: One particularly wise Third Opinion Wikipedian, RegentsPark, once succinctly put the purpose of Third Opinions like this, "It's sort of like if you're having an argument on the street in front of City Hall and turn to a passer-by to ask 'hey, is it true that the Brooklyn Bridge is for sale?'." I have no idea whether speed trials and Speed Week are or are not the same thing, but I do know this: Wikipedia policy requires that any unsourced edit which is challenged for any reason must be supported with a reliable source as defined by Wikipedia and the burden to do so is on the editor reinstating the material. Continuing to revert such material back in after it has been challenged is disruptive editing which can result in sanctions. There's nothing to talk about here until a reliable source is provided. Once a source has been provided, if there is still a dispute either of you may seek further dispute resolution from Third Opinion or from some other DR source. |
What's next: Once you've considered this opinion click here to see what happens next.— TransporterMan ( TALK) 03:49, 7 April 2016 (UTC) |
So regardless of any other arguements, regardless of justification, it's my fault because a request for a source is sacrosant. I can understand that. Must say that had not occurred to me and I should have known better. Thank you for the fast response TransporterMan. Additionally, thanks to Rpo.castro for content assessment. -- Falcadore ( talk) 12:25, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
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