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There is a rather extensive summary of the history of Boca Chica Village in the 2013 Draft EIS done by the FAA for SpaceX for the proposed launch site. Since the doc is a US government doc, it is Wiki available under acceptable licenses.
A Wiki-ready citation is here: <ref name=faa201304v1>{{cite report |last=Nield|first=George C. |title=Draft Environmental Impact Statement: SpaceX Texas Launch Site |volume=1 |date=May 2014 |pages=3-32—3-34 |url=https://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/ast/environmental/nepa_docs/review/launch/spacex_texas_launch_site_environmental_impact_statement/media/FEIS_SpaceX_Texas_Launch_Site_Vol_I.pdf |publisher=[[Federal Aviation Administration]], [[Office of Commercial Space Transportation]] |quote= sources explicitly quoted from the FAA document include reference to Garza 2012b; Garza and Long 2012b; Hildebrand 1950; Garcia 2003 }}</ref>
The relevant text is:
"In 1904 the St. Louis, Brownsville and Mexico Railroad was completed to Brownsville. This railroad opened the area to northern farmers who began to come to the area at the turn of the twentieth century. They cleared the land, built irrigation systems and roads, and introduced large-scale truck farming and citrus farming. The new farming endeavors began a new period of prosperity around Brownsville. Improvements such as water and sewer lines were completed for the city at this time. Port Isabel, however, remained a small coastal town with a population of less than 200 (Garza 2012b; Garza and Long 2012b; Hildebrand 1950).
"The availability of cheap land in the area created a strong interest in land speculation. Special trains were dispatched to bring land speculators to the area and by the early 1920s as many as 200 people a day were coming to see the land (Garza and Long 2012b; Hildebrand 1950).
"One of the more notable land speculation ventures was the construction of the Del Mar Resort on Boca Chica Beach. Advertised as being on the same latitude as Miami, the resort was built in the 1920s by Colonel Sam Robinson, who moved to the Rio Grande Valley in 1917. The resort had 20 day-cabins available for rent, a bathhouse, and a ballroom. It was quite successful resort until 1933, when a hurricane destroyed most of the buildings. The remaining buildings were turned into a base for the Coast Guard during World War II. As a result of the Great Depression and the hurricane damage, the owners of the property were not able to reopen the resort after the end of the war (Garcia 2003).
"The 1933 hurricane spurred the Works Progress Administration to take part in the dredging and construction of the port of Brownsville, a venture that the city had been trying to complete since 1928. The port was officially opened in 1936. The completion of the port made Brownsville the shipping center for the lower Rio Grande Valley and Mexico. This helped the economy of the town weather the Great Depression and by the beginning of World War II Brownsville was poised for another boom (Garza and Long 2012b).
"Shrimpers moved to the region from Louisiana and other parts of Texas in the 1940s and the town began exporting large amounts of shrimp. Additionally, cotton developed into a large-scale export crop to the area in the late 1940s. In 1949, the Gulf Intracoastal Waterway was extended to Brownsville, increasing its shipping capabilities. Brownsville became the leading exporter of cotton in the 1950s after the demand for cotton increased. The boom continued into the 1960s. The population in Brownsville increased by 12,000 people from the 1950s to the 1960s (Garza and Long 2012b).
"In Port Isabel the Intracoastal Waterway had increased trade. A bridge connecting the town to Padre Island was constructed in 1954, helping to make the small town a tourist destination. By this time the population of Port Isabel has increased to 5,300 (Garza 2012b).
"In the early 1960s, John A. Caputa, a radio personality turned real estate developer from Chicago, decided to build a retirement community for Polish immigrants 22 miles east of Brownsville. One of his three business partners already owned 3,250 acres of land inland from the site of the former Del Mar Resort. Together, they created the Rio Grande Beach Corporation to develop the community, with Caputa in charge of marketing the house lots (Kelly ca. 1979). Using radio and print ads, Caputa marketed the retirement community to the working-class Polish community in Chicago, Illinois as the Fort Lauderdale of the west (Heaton 2008; Kelly ca. 1979). He had the property landscaped and brought trains full of Polish immigrants to the site (Chapman 1992).
"Caputa named the retirement community Kennedy Shores after President Kennedy, whom he greatly admired. Lots were sold for $1,200 and houses for $12,500. Within a few years, Kennedy Shores consisted of 30 residences, a restaurant, and a hotel. The community had its own water treatment plant and sewer and electrical services (Garza 2012a). However, in 1967 Hurricane Beulah destroyed the restaurant and utilities and washed away large parts of the property. As a result of the storm, the corporation experienced financial difficulties and 1,000 acres of the original tract were sold at a sheriff’s sale (Kelly ca. 1979).
"Seeing the sheriff’s sale as an opportunity to break from the corporation and continue in his own venture, Caputa purchased the 1,000-acre tract in 1968 and subdivided it into 5,000 lots, which he aimed to sell for $5,000 each. He had electricity restored to the area (but no other utilities) and completed other improvements to the property worth an estimated $250,000. While completing the improvements, Caputa’s former partners began a legal dispute with him over the sheriff’s sale, miring Caputa in legal fees and stalling construction of the village (Kelly ca. 1979).
"Desperate for financing, Caputa took to the radio airwaves again and asked his audience to lend him money towards constructing the retirement village, with the promise that he would repay them with 12 percent interest after a year. Unfortunately, Caputa’s financial and legal problems persisted and he was only able to construct about 35–45 houses, a hotel, a restaurant (demolished, but concrete foundation remains), and a swimming pool, between the late 1960s and mid-1970s (Chapman 1992; Kelly ca. 1992). People from Chicago’s Polish community did, however, move to the village, and in 1975, renamed it Kopernik Shores, after Polish astronomer Nikolai Kopernik (Garcia 2003; Garza 2012a). In 1978, the population of Kopernik Shores was 26 (Garza 2012a). Currently, this development is referred to as Boca Chica Village."
That is a reasonably detailed summary of the origin of Boca Chica Village. N2e ( talk) 18:07, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
There is an article about SpaceX potentially coming to the area with a few quotations from the small group of residents (two who live "year round" and 13 who are "winter Texans" or renters) http://www.themonitor.com/news/local/boca-chica-s-few-residents-concerned-about-possibility-of-spacex/article_5ba32054-c825-11e3-8add-001a4bcf6878.html here], in the The Monitor local newspaper, 19 April 2014. N2e ( talk) 15:42, 21 April 2014 (UTC)
SpaceX extended formal offers to buy up many/all? Boca Chica Village properties at three times fair market value in September 2019. Some controversy has ensued. I've tried to add a summary of that situation through mid-October to the article now, with sources. Other editors please review and improve the summary of the process in the article. N2e ( talk) 13:31, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
A German publication, Wirtschaft Woche, has posted a very nice story on Boca Chica, with before (2015/2016) and after (recent, 2019) satellite images of the two main SpaceX launch site facility and spaceshipyard facilities, as well as the SpaceX solar field, satellite radio antenna dishes, etc. that are in the village proper, with a 2019 sat image of the village itself. Worth a read if anyone is looking to improve the Boca Chica article. Here Elon Musk builds his shuttle to Mars, 16 October 2019. N2e ( talk) 17:54, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: WP:TRAINWRECK withdrawn. I am renominating this RM separately. Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 17:23, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
– Boca Chica, TX is more popular than the Santo Domingo one, since SpX has built a launch site on the Boca Chica, TX. Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 13:18, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: no consensus. —usernamekiran (talk) 05:57, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
Boca Chica Village, Texas →
Boca Chica, Texas – More
WP:CONCISE title, since our current article title is too
WP:PRECISE. Although the RM seems technical, I think it is controversial.
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The result of the move request was: Not moved. WP:SNOW closure. ( closed by non-admin page mover) -- Calidum 17:33, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
– The incorporation is of an existing settlement, just under a new name. Better to move the existing article to its new name, than to make a separate article. Chessrat ( talk, contributions) 01:05, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
Before the next inevitable WP:MOVE proposal is made, we should note here on that Talk page that the small village of "Boca Chica Village" is NOT what has been suggested would become "Starbase, Texas." Rather, as is made clear in a number of sources, the "Starbase" moniker is being proposed by Musk for a larger part of the Boca Chica subdelta peninsula, of which Boca Chica Village is only one (relatively small, geographically) part. There is nothing official yet, of course. But we should not confuse ourselves and other Wikipedia editors by thinking this is merely renaming the village. Cheers. N2e ( talk) 18:34, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
Here are additional sources that might be used to improve the article, for a bit of the historical and current situation in Boca Chica Village. They are already encoded in wiki citation syntax, in the event anyone wants to use them to work on this article on the village: N2e ( talk) 18:51, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
<ref name=sanews20210424>{{cite news |title='This is not SpaceX property': Elon Musk's company looks to rename South Texas town 'Starbase' |url=https://www.expressnews.com/business/article/SpaceX-Boca-Chica-takeover-16125119.php |last=Lingle|first=Brandon |work=[[San Antonio Express News]] |date=24 April 2021 |accessdate=28 April 2021 }}</ref>
<ref name=sanews20210428>{{cite news |title=SpaceX's Boca Chica venture has all the 'versus' categories covered |url=https://www.expressnews.com/sa-inc/article/SpaceX-s-Boca-Chica-venture-South-Texas-16133753.php |last=Lingle|first=Brandon |work=[[San Antonio Express News]] |date=28 April 2021 |accessdate=28 April 2021 }}</ref>
Near the bottom of 'Early History' the village is stated to have had a population of only 6 permanent residents by 2008, and this is implied to have been a pre-existing and ongoing trend of abandonment before SpaceX's interest in the site. But just below that the word 'many' is used twice to describe the residents. Is this not a contradiction in terms or sort of misleading? Or are we counting the superfluous vacation homes and unoccupiable wrecks as 'residents' as well? 2603:8080:5701:9E54:E0FB:BA41:E1D9:182B ( talk) 21:53, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
Although the name "Kopernik Shores" has largely fallen out of common use, it remains the name officially recognised by the US Board of Geographic Names, see their database entry 1377502. I think it makes sense for the article title to use the de facto most common name, but it is important that the article not give the false impression that the name "Kopernik Shores" is a former or superseded name, when officially it is not. SomethingForDeletion ( talk) 04:16, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
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There is a rather extensive summary of the history of Boca Chica Village in the 2013 Draft EIS done by the FAA for SpaceX for the proposed launch site. Since the doc is a US government doc, it is Wiki available under acceptable licenses.
A Wiki-ready citation is here: <ref name=faa201304v1>{{cite report |last=Nield|first=George C. |title=Draft Environmental Impact Statement: SpaceX Texas Launch Site |volume=1 |date=May 2014 |pages=3-32—3-34 |url=https://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/ast/environmental/nepa_docs/review/launch/spacex_texas_launch_site_environmental_impact_statement/media/FEIS_SpaceX_Texas_Launch_Site_Vol_I.pdf |publisher=[[Federal Aviation Administration]], [[Office of Commercial Space Transportation]] |quote= sources explicitly quoted from the FAA document include reference to Garza 2012b; Garza and Long 2012b; Hildebrand 1950; Garcia 2003 }}</ref>
The relevant text is:
"In 1904 the St. Louis, Brownsville and Mexico Railroad was completed to Brownsville. This railroad opened the area to northern farmers who began to come to the area at the turn of the twentieth century. They cleared the land, built irrigation systems and roads, and introduced large-scale truck farming and citrus farming. The new farming endeavors began a new period of prosperity around Brownsville. Improvements such as water and sewer lines were completed for the city at this time. Port Isabel, however, remained a small coastal town with a population of less than 200 (Garza 2012b; Garza and Long 2012b; Hildebrand 1950).
"The availability of cheap land in the area created a strong interest in land speculation. Special trains were dispatched to bring land speculators to the area and by the early 1920s as many as 200 people a day were coming to see the land (Garza and Long 2012b; Hildebrand 1950).
"One of the more notable land speculation ventures was the construction of the Del Mar Resort on Boca Chica Beach. Advertised as being on the same latitude as Miami, the resort was built in the 1920s by Colonel Sam Robinson, who moved to the Rio Grande Valley in 1917. The resort had 20 day-cabins available for rent, a bathhouse, and a ballroom. It was quite successful resort until 1933, when a hurricane destroyed most of the buildings. The remaining buildings were turned into a base for the Coast Guard during World War II. As a result of the Great Depression and the hurricane damage, the owners of the property were not able to reopen the resort after the end of the war (Garcia 2003).
"The 1933 hurricane spurred the Works Progress Administration to take part in the dredging and construction of the port of Brownsville, a venture that the city had been trying to complete since 1928. The port was officially opened in 1936. The completion of the port made Brownsville the shipping center for the lower Rio Grande Valley and Mexico. This helped the economy of the town weather the Great Depression and by the beginning of World War II Brownsville was poised for another boom (Garza and Long 2012b).
"Shrimpers moved to the region from Louisiana and other parts of Texas in the 1940s and the town began exporting large amounts of shrimp. Additionally, cotton developed into a large-scale export crop to the area in the late 1940s. In 1949, the Gulf Intracoastal Waterway was extended to Brownsville, increasing its shipping capabilities. Brownsville became the leading exporter of cotton in the 1950s after the demand for cotton increased. The boom continued into the 1960s. The population in Brownsville increased by 12,000 people from the 1950s to the 1960s (Garza and Long 2012b).
"In Port Isabel the Intracoastal Waterway had increased trade. A bridge connecting the town to Padre Island was constructed in 1954, helping to make the small town a tourist destination. By this time the population of Port Isabel has increased to 5,300 (Garza 2012b).
"In the early 1960s, John A. Caputa, a radio personality turned real estate developer from Chicago, decided to build a retirement community for Polish immigrants 22 miles east of Brownsville. One of his three business partners already owned 3,250 acres of land inland from the site of the former Del Mar Resort. Together, they created the Rio Grande Beach Corporation to develop the community, with Caputa in charge of marketing the house lots (Kelly ca. 1979). Using radio and print ads, Caputa marketed the retirement community to the working-class Polish community in Chicago, Illinois as the Fort Lauderdale of the west (Heaton 2008; Kelly ca. 1979). He had the property landscaped and brought trains full of Polish immigrants to the site (Chapman 1992).
"Caputa named the retirement community Kennedy Shores after President Kennedy, whom he greatly admired. Lots were sold for $1,200 and houses for $12,500. Within a few years, Kennedy Shores consisted of 30 residences, a restaurant, and a hotel. The community had its own water treatment plant and sewer and electrical services (Garza 2012a). However, in 1967 Hurricane Beulah destroyed the restaurant and utilities and washed away large parts of the property. As a result of the storm, the corporation experienced financial difficulties and 1,000 acres of the original tract were sold at a sheriff’s sale (Kelly ca. 1979).
"Seeing the sheriff’s sale as an opportunity to break from the corporation and continue in his own venture, Caputa purchased the 1,000-acre tract in 1968 and subdivided it into 5,000 lots, which he aimed to sell for $5,000 each. He had electricity restored to the area (but no other utilities) and completed other improvements to the property worth an estimated $250,000. While completing the improvements, Caputa’s former partners began a legal dispute with him over the sheriff’s sale, miring Caputa in legal fees and stalling construction of the village (Kelly ca. 1979).
"Desperate for financing, Caputa took to the radio airwaves again and asked his audience to lend him money towards constructing the retirement village, with the promise that he would repay them with 12 percent interest after a year. Unfortunately, Caputa’s financial and legal problems persisted and he was only able to construct about 35–45 houses, a hotel, a restaurant (demolished, but concrete foundation remains), and a swimming pool, between the late 1960s and mid-1970s (Chapman 1992; Kelly ca. 1992). People from Chicago’s Polish community did, however, move to the village, and in 1975, renamed it Kopernik Shores, after Polish astronomer Nikolai Kopernik (Garcia 2003; Garza 2012a). In 1978, the population of Kopernik Shores was 26 (Garza 2012a). Currently, this development is referred to as Boca Chica Village."
That is a reasonably detailed summary of the origin of Boca Chica Village. N2e ( talk) 18:07, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
There is an article about SpaceX potentially coming to the area with a few quotations from the small group of residents (two who live "year round" and 13 who are "winter Texans" or renters) http://www.themonitor.com/news/local/boca-chica-s-few-residents-concerned-about-possibility-of-spacex/article_5ba32054-c825-11e3-8add-001a4bcf6878.html here], in the The Monitor local newspaper, 19 April 2014. N2e ( talk) 15:42, 21 April 2014 (UTC)
SpaceX extended formal offers to buy up many/all? Boca Chica Village properties at three times fair market value in September 2019. Some controversy has ensued. I've tried to add a summary of that situation through mid-October to the article now, with sources. Other editors please review and improve the summary of the process in the article. N2e ( talk) 13:31, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
A German publication, Wirtschaft Woche, has posted a very nice story on Boca Chica, with before (2015/2016) and after (recent, 2019) satellite images of the two main SpaceX launch site facility and spaceshipyard facilities, as well as the SpaceX solar field, satellite radio antenna dishes, etc. that are in the village proper, with a 2019 sat image of the village itself. Worth a read if anyone is looking to improve the Boca Chica article. Here Elon Musk builds his shuttle to Mars, 16 October 2019. N2e ( talk) 17:54, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
It was proposed in this section that multiple pages be
renamed and moved.
The discussion has been closed, and the result will be found in the closer's comment. Links:
current log •
target log
This is template {{
subst:Requested move/end}} |
The result of the move request was: WP:TRAINWRECK withdrawn. I am renominating this RM separately. Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 17:23, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
– Boca Chica, TX is more popular than the Santo Domingo one, since SpX has built a launch site on the Boca Chica, TX. Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 13:18, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: no consensus. —usernamekiran (talk) 05:57, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
Boca Chica Village, Texas →
Boca Chica, Texas – More
WP:CONCISE title, since our current article title is too
WP:PRECISE. Although the RM seems technical, I think it is controversial.
Soumya-8974
talk
contribs
subpages 17:52, 6 July 2020 (UTC)—Relisting.
Ⓩⓟⓟⓘⓧ
Talk 18:38, 13 July 2020 (UTC)—Relisting. —usernamekiran
(talk) 20:37, 11 August 2020 (UTC)—Relisting. —usernamekiran
(talk) 05:33, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Not moved. WP:SNOW closure. ( closed by non-admin page mover) -- Calidum 17:33, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
– The incorporation is of an existing settlement, just under a new name. Better to move the existing article to its new name, than to make a separate article. Chessrat ( talk, contributions) 01:05, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
Before the next inevitable WP:MOVE proposal is made, we should note here on that Talk page that the small village of "Boca Chica Village" is NOT what has been suggested would become "Starbase, Texas." Rather, as is made clear in a number of sources, the "Starbase" moniker is being proposed by Musk for a larger part of the Boca Chica subdelta peninsula, of which Boca Chica Village is only one (relatively small, geographically) part. There is nothing official yet, of course. But we should not confuse ourselves and other Wikipedia editors by thinking this is merely renaming the village. Cheers. N2e ( talk) 18:34, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
Here are additional sources that might be used to improve the article, for a bit of the historical and current situation in Boca Chica Village. They are already encoded in wiki citation syntax, in the event anyone wants to use them to work on this article on the village: N2e ( talk) 18:51, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
<ref name=sanews20210424>{{cite news |title='This is not SpaceX property': Elon Musk's company looks to rename South Texas town 'Starbase' |url=https://www.expressnews.com/business/article/SpaceX-Boca-Chica-takeover-16125119.php |last=Lingle|first=Brandon |work=[[San Antonio Express News]] |date=24 April 2021 |accessdate=28 April 2021 }}</ref>
<ref name=sanews20210428>{{cite news |title=SpaceX's Boca Chica venture has all the 'versus' categories covered |url=https://www.expressnews.com/sa-inc/article/SpaceX-s-Boca-Chica-venture-South-Texas-16133753.php |last=Lingle|first=Brandon |work=[[San Antonio Express News]] |date=28 April 2021 |accessdate=28 April 2021 }}</ref>
Near the bottom of 'Early History' the village is stated to have had a population of only 6 permanent residents by 2008, and this is implied to have been a pre-existing and ongoing trend of abandonment before SpaceX's interest in the site. But just below that the word 'many' is used twice to describe the residents. Is this not a contradiction in terms or sort of misleading? Or are we counting the superfluous vacation homes and unoccupiable wrecks as 'residents' as well? 2603:8080:5701:9E54:E0FB:BA41:E1D9:182B ( talk) 21:53, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
Although the name "Kopernik Shores" has largely fallen out of common use, it remains the name officially recognised by the US Board of Geographic Names, see their database entry 1377502. I think it makes sense for the article title to use the de facto most common name, but it is important that the article not give the false impression that the name "Kopernik Shores" is a former or superseded name, when officially it is not. SomethingForDeletion ( talk) 04:16, 29 December 2023 (UTC)