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Well I agree the opening lines contain way to much information. I have actually just removed a line which was about two singles that were not even from this album. I also removed "Sliver" from the singles section in the box on the right hand side as this wasn't a single from this album. As for allmusic.com I think it has been mentioned in guidelines that this is a reliable website to use as a source although I don't know about, about.com. You mentioned the Finland chart position being included, well why not ? this album does not have many chart positions. As for Poland I don't think there was an albums chart back then and there certainly isn't an archive or book. I should also mention that although this album was released in 1989 it did not make the charts until it was re-released in 1992. mjgm84 ( talk) 12:40, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
'The album was re-released outside of the US by Geffen records in 1992. It was well received by critics. The re-release debuted at number eighty-nine on the Billboard 200.' What? It was released outside of the US, still it charted? How can it be possible? 85.217.47.47 ( talk) 04:46, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
I was in the middle of some edit changes when I got an edit conflict. I did a simple copy and paste as I didn't want to go through the changes bit by bit as the read out was rather confusing. The conflict edits will have been lost, so I'll now go through and try to restore them. SilkTork * YES! 09:13, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
Big Cheese currently redirects here, but I have proposed making that title a disambiguation page and moving the song's redirect to Big Cheese (song). Your comments would be welcome at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2013 May 8#Big Cheese. Thryduulf ( talk) 20:10, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
I would argue the inclusion of this category is not really appropriate for two reasons:
Thoughts anyone? Lazy Bastard Guy 17:10, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: move Bleach (album) to Bleach (Nirvana album), but leave the other two at their current name. Armbrust The Homunculus 18:01, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
– 1st move required by WP:NCM, partial disambiguation. The other two for discussion only, (raised by another editor, I am neutral) proposing but note that double parenthesis is used frequently in categories. In ictu oculi ( talk) 01:12, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
I have unintentionally and accidentally taken part in an edit war with User:Statik_N over the past two days do to my want to include punk rock into the list of genres. I have multiple reliable citations calling the album punk [1] [2] [3] [4] and although Stick N has claimed it, I have searched to try and find a consensus against the inclusion of the genre, and I have come up with no evidence to suggest that, only people saying that if it wants inclusion then there should be sources. Issan Sumisu ( talk) 16:39, 21 December 2017 (UTC)
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My first press of the LP lists the spelling “Kurdt Kobain” on the sleeve. Looking at the article’s Wikitext, I’m inferring that there was a previous edit war about this and that the deniers of such spelling’s existence prevailed. And yet I’m staring at the name ”Kurdt Kobain” on this record from 30 years ago, yearning for this to be included in this article. So? Morganfitzp ( talk) 19:52, 16 November 2019 (UTC)
@ 71.244.236.102:, every time I return "hard-rock" to the genre-box for "Bleach", you remove it with insufficient reasoning.
Your latest reason was: "The source you provided, and it only uses the term "70s influence heavy rock sound" as a over arching term to describe the Grunge sound favored by the label". This might, in your opinion, be the case, but "grunge" isn't mentioned anywhere in said sentence. The fact remains that the source describes the album as showcasing a "heavy-rock" sound, which in all other cases warrants the inclusion of a "hard-rock" genre.
If you wish to change the genre, then your reasoning must be more substantial JoeyofScotia ( talk) 19:21, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
This has been discussed elsewhere at length on Wikipedia Wikipedia, the presence of "heavy rock" or "loud rock" within a reliable source suffices the inclusion of "hard rock" within the corresponding Wikipedia article. Please do not remove sourced and discussed content without first consulting the Talk Page Thanks, JoeyofScotia ( talk) 17:56, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
JoeyofScotia ( talk) 14:50, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
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Well I agree the opening lines contain way to much information. I have actually just removed a line which was about two singles that were not even from this album. I also removed "Sliver" from the singles section in the box on the right hand side as this wasn't a single from this album. As for allmusic.com I think it has been mentioned in guidelines that this is a reliable website to use as a source although I don't know about, about.com. You mentioned the Finland chart position being included, well why not ? this album does not have many chart positions. As for Poland I don't think there was an albums chart back then and there certainly isn't an archive or book. I should also mention that although this album was released in 1989 it did not make the charts until it was re-released in 1992. mjgm84 ( talk) 12:40, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
'The album was re-released outside of the US by Geffen records in 1992. It was well received by critics. The re-release debuted at number eighty-nine on the Billboard 200.' What? It was released outside of the US, still it charted? How can it be possible? 85.217.47.47 ( talk) 04:46, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
I was in the middle of some edit changes when I got an edit conflict. I did a simple copy and paste as I didn't want to go through the changes bit by bit as the read out was rather confusing. The conflict edits will have been lost, so I'll now go through and try to restore them. SilkTork * YES! 09:13, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
Big Cheese currently redirects here, but I have proposed making that title a disambiguation page and moving the song's redirect to Big Cheese (song). Your comments would be welcome at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2013 May 8#Big Cheese. Thryduulf ( talk) 20:10, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
I would argue the inclusion of this category is not really appropriate for two reasons:
Thoughts anyone? Lazy Bastard Guy 17:10, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: move Bleach (album) to Bleach (Nirvana album), but leave the other two at their current name. Armbrust The Homunculus 18:01, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
– 1st move required by WP:NCM, partial disambiguation. The other two for discussion only, (raised by another editor, I am neutral) proposing but note that double parenthesis is used frequently in categories. In ictu oculi ( talk) 01:12, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
I have unintentionally and accidentally taken part in an edit war with User:Statik_N over the past two days do to my want to include punk rock into the list of genres. I have multiple reliable citations calling the album punk [1] [2] [3] [4] and although Stick N has claimed it, I have searched to try and find a consensus against the inclusion of the genre, and I have come up with no evidence to suggest that, only people saying that if it wants inclusion then there should be sources. Issan Sumisu ( talk) 16:39, 21 December 2017 (UTC)
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My first press of the LP lists the spelling “Kurdt Kobain” on the sleeve. Looking at the article’s Wikitext, I’m inferring that there was a previous edit war about this and that the deniers of such spelling’s existence prevailed. And yet I’m staring at the name ”Kurdt Kobain” on this record from 30 years ago, yearning for this to be included in this article. So? Morganfitzp ( talk) 19:52, 16 November 2019 (UTC)
@ 71.244.236.102:, every time I return "hard-rock" to the genre-box for "Bleach", you remove it with insufficient reasoning.
Your latest reason was: "The source you provided, and it only uses the term "70s influence heavy rock sound" as a over arching term to describe the Grunge sound favored by the label". This might, in your opinion, be the case, but "grunge" isn't mentioned anywhere in said sentence. The fact remains that the source describes the album as showcasing a "heavy-rock" sound, which in all other cases warrants the inclusion of a "hard-rock" genre.
If you wish to change the genre, then your reasoning must be more substantial JoeyofScotia ( talk) 19:21, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
This has been discussed elsewhere at length on Wikipedia Wikipedia, the presence of "heavy rock" or "loud rock" within a reliable source suffices the inclusion of "hard rock" within the corresponding Wikipedia article. Please do not remove sourced and discussed content without first consulting the Talk Page Thanks, JoeyofScotia ( talk) 17:56, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
JoeyofScotia ( talk) 14:50, 25 February 2020 (UTC)