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I'm intresting where I can find more information about this statement:
//Regards, Rogper 22:10, 31 Oct 2004 (UTC)
This request has been moved from Wikipedia:Requested copyright exmaination:
A link in Wikipedia: Bjarmaland points to two links, one is mine and the other is a copy of my page with minor changes. I made this page for Karen Mulders of the Netherlands who was doing her Phd studies and requested information about Bjarmland. I noticed the hunmagyr site soon after with my translations and content. This does not comply with "fair use" because the work is substantially the whole article and not just parts.
My site is: http://uralica.com/kola.htm The offending site is: http://www.hunmagyar.org/turan/karelia/bjarm.html
This is verifyable from Karen Mulders. [email address redacted] I have not emailed her for some time so not sure if emails correct. Please remove the offending link. I have tried in the past to contact the person but have not found the email address on the pages.
Thank you, Osmo Joronen —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.70.129.34 ( talk • contribs)
The article needs some restructuring and overall polishing, also references to its contents. Volunteering to do that in the upcoming weeks if no objections are raised. -- Drieakko 06:33, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
If Bjarmaland possible can be Perm, is can be related to Wisu. -- Üntïflër ( ә?) 19:59, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
Well, what is this Problems of identification all about here? it is exactly like the header says it is Most scholars believe that the term (probably related to Permia)
The name ...
Permian is found in the oldest Russian, Nestor's Chronicle (1000-1100).
[1]
even nowadays the southern branch of the people are called Komi-Permyaks.
Hau,hau,hur,hur. Wisu is Arabian version of Russian Ves, both meaning simply Finno-Ugrian Vepsä heimo which lived inside the triange Laatokka - Valgetjärvi - Äänisjärvi. That area was not Bjarmia, at the time these old Viking visitors travelled in the area. In fact, there seems to have been also Mongols visiting the area in 1242, where they saw "certaine type of monsterers" ie. milk whales on the Äänislahti (Onega Bay) at Vienanmeri (White Sea). For sure to Mongols monsters, never seen before by these land liverers. They turned back to the Comania. Cheers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.113.116.165 ( talk) 16:44, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
Biarmia is mentioned here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Septentrionales.jpg —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.80.102.246 ( talk) 20:40, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
The map that appears in the section "Early contacts" was previously used in the English article for Ohthere of Hålogaland, but now that article is more fully developed than it was and uses the map shown here. This is because, as I believe, the older map is seriously in error. You may wish to review my comments on the Talk page for the older map here and consider using the map shown here instead. Thanks for reading. Nortonius ( talk) 15:08, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
... “before the idol of Thor” lay a forge. The word "Thor" among the Mansi means God, just as among the riding Chuvash ( Bulgar- Oghur) "Thor" means God/Creator. The Chuvash erect idol Yuba pillars in honor of Thor, like the Japanese Torii.
Bjarma was the name given to
Great Perm and the city of
Bilyar (Pülear), the capital of
Volga Bulgaria.
Bjarma -
Permia - Pülear -
Bilyar
176.52.77.178 (
talk) 01:53, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
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I'm intresting where I can find more information about this statement:
//Regards, Rogper 22:10, 31 Oct 2004 (UTC)
This request has been moved from Wikipedia:Requested copyright exmaination:
A link in Wikipedia: Bjarmaland points to two links, one is mine and the other is a copy of my page with minor changes. I made this page for Karen Mulders of the Netherlands who was doing her Phd studies and requested information about Bjarmland. I noticed the hunmagyr site soon after with my translations and content. This does not comply with "fair use" because the work is substantially the whole article and not just parts.
My site is: http://uralica.com/kola.htm The offending site is: http://www.hunmagyar.org/turan/karelia/bjarm.html
This is verifyable from Karen Mulders. [email address redacted] I have not emailed her for some time so not sure if emails correct. Please remove the offending link. I have tried in the past to contact the person but have not found the email address on the pages.
Thank you, Osmo Joronen —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.70.129.34 ( talk • contribs)
The article needs some restructuring and overall polishing, also references to its contents. Volunteering to do that in the upcoming weeks if no objections are raised. -- Drieakko 06:33, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
If Bjarmaland possible can be Perm, is can be related to Wisu. -- Üntïflër ( ә?) 19:59, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
Well, what is this Problems of identification all about here? it is exactly like the header says it is Most scholars believe that the term (probably related to Permia)
The name ...
Permian is found in the oldest Russian, Nestor's Chronicle (1000-1100).
[1]
even nowadays the southern branch of the people are called Komi-Permyaks.
Hau,hau,hur,hur. Wisu is Arabian version of Russian Ves, both meaning simply Finno-Ugrian Vepsä heimo which lived inside the triange Laatokka - Valgetjärvi - Äänisjärvi. That area was not Bjarmia, at the time these old Viking visitors travelled in the area. In fact, there seems to have been also Mongols visiting the area in 1242, where they saw "certaine type of monsterers" ie. milk whales on the Äänislahti (Onega Bay) at Vienanmeri (White Sea). For sure to Mongols monsters, never seen before by these land liverers. They turned back to the Comania. Cheers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.113.116.165 ( talk) 16:44, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
Biarmia is mentioned here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Septentrionales.jpg —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.80.102.246 ( talk) 20:40, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
The map that appears in the section "Early contacts" was previously used in the English article for Ohthere of Hålogaland, but now that article is more fully developed than it was and uses the map shown here. This is because, as I believe, the older map is seriously in error. You may wish to review my comments on the Talk page for the older map here and consider using the map shown here instead. Thanks for reading. Nortonius ( talk) 15:08, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
... “before the idol of Thor” lay a forge. The word "Thor" among the Mansi means God, just as among the riding Chuvash ( Bulgar- Oghur) "Thor" means God/Creator. The Chuvash erect idol Yuba pillars in honor of Thor, like the Japanese Torii.
Bjarma was the name given to
Great Perm and the city of
Bilyar (Pülear), the capital of
Volga Bulgaria.
Bjarma -
Permia - Pülear -
Bilyar
176.52.77.178 (
talk) 01:53, 29 September 2023 (UTC)