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Removed "Khatushyamji" related info
User needs to corroborate facts from Hindu literature viz Vedas/Sutras/Puranas etc.
It has been mentioned in Mahabharat about "Khatushyamji". In TV Serial "Mahabharat Katha" which is the modification of "Mahabharat" it has been mentioned. He had very important role in Mahabharat. Whoever has removed information about Khatushyamji, i think he does not have more knowledge about Mahabharat. Refer link: http://www.khatushyamji.com/legend.htm or Khatushyamji.
Soon we need to create a disambiguation page for river bhima which flows in maharashtra.
Perhaps worth mentioning his parents as well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.140.181.4 ( talk) 02:06, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
This article has many issues:
IMO, the GA nomination should be withdrawn. Redtigerxyz Talk 05:45, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
You still haven't updated the karna part Arjuna randi ( talk) 14:54, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
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Bhima actually killed 99 Kauravas. Bhima didnt kill Yuyutsu. Yuyutsu fought on behalf of Pandavas. Karna DV ( talk) 10:08, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
There were 102 Kaurava, not 100. 100 sons of Gandhari + Gandhari's daughter Dushala and Dhritrashtra's illegitimate son Yuyutsu .💠245CMR💠.• 👥 📜 07:17, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
We need citations for the definitions of his alternate names. Jihnmayodhin is said here to mean "fighter against falsehoods," but most sources online say it actually means "unfair/unmoral fighter," (Jihnma = morally crooked; Yodhin = fighter, according to these sources), referring to when he broke the rules of combat. DaCashman ( talk) 06:56, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
Much better sourcing is required for this article. As it is now, the article relies way too heavily on individual opinion and primary sourcing. Best, Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 01:49, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
Bhima didn't win against karna on the16th day. Arjuna randi ( talk) 14:53, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
Other days of the war are missing Arjuna randi ( talk) 14:54, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
https://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m01/m01002.htm https://sanskritdocuments.org/mirrors/mahabharata/ https://sanskritdocuments.org/ https://sacred-texts.com/hin/m07/m07195.htm https://sanskritdocuments.org/mirrors/mahabharata/unic/mbh01_sa.html
I will add more references later.
Can anyone please provide accurate sources than writing bogus on this page. Bhima never defeated karna other than the 14th day and even Then karna defeated bhima multiple times after that. This article is extremely biased and inconsistent. Shiraj chandra ( talk) 18:37, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
Hello @ Lord kai07:
I have noticed your change on Bhima's rajasuya conquest. You have edited the text stating that Bhima was defeated by Karna. Even though the reference link of KMG is stating otherwise. I would like to hear your thoughts on this.
I wanted to undo your revision. But noticed that you yourself has made this edit by undoing someone else's. I don't want to start an unintended edit war. Hence I am abstaining from it for now.
On another note. You have started an edit war with my previous edit regarding Bhima's fourteenth day of the war without providing a proper citation or starting a talk page topic as per the Wikipedia community guidelines. LakshmanReddy72 ( talk) 19:40, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
The Karna s digvijay yatra isn't a complete interpolation. It's briefly mentioned in the BORI CE. Then bhima and satyaki beating karna isn't clear either. Multiple sources suggest that bhima had help from Arjuna and so did Karna.it wasn't an individual battle,rather a battle royale and Krishna helped satyaki by giving him his divine chariot. So these victories and defeats are uncertain with different outcomes across different versions. The 14th day edit clearly states "With the outcome changing every time". Meaning they both won and lost multiple times. Karna is given the victory, because he was the last man standing or the victor of the last battle, hence the winning conclusion. The rajasuya conquest is extremely unclear. Even the source says Bhima only subjugated Karna, but that doesn't mean it's a defeat. It could just have been a simple political discussion. Without any references,@ Lakshmanreddy72:, personally attacks me for an unclear ,unsourced edit. Isn't that unprofessional? I don't want to start an edit war or any kind of discussion on that matter. If he has a verified source,which actually suggests bhima's Victory,then please be my guest and Change the edits , if not then end the discussion! Lord kai07 ( talk) 06:57, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
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Removed "Khatushyamji" related info
User needs to corroborate facts from Hindu literature viz Vedas/Sutras/Puranas etc.
It has been mentioned in Mahabharat about "Khatushyamji". In TV Serial "Mahabharat Katha" which is the modification of "Mahabharat" it has been mentioned. He had very important role in Mahabharat. Whoever has removed information about Khatushyamji, i think he does not have more knowledge about Mahabharat. Refer link: http://www.khatushyamji.com/legend.htm or Khatushyamji.
Soon we need to create a disambiguation page for river bhima which flows in maharashtra.
Perhaps worth mentioning his parents as well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.140.181.4 ( talk) 02:06, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
This article has many issues:
IMO, the GA nomination should be withdrawn. Redtigerxyz Talk 05:45, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
You still haven't updated the karna part Arjuna randi ( talk) 14:54, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
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Bhima actually killed 99 Kauravas. Bhima didnt kill Yuyutsu. Yuyutsu fought on behalf of Pandavas. Karna DV ( talk) 10:08, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
There were 102 Kaurava, not 100. 100 sons of Gandhari + Gandhari's daughter Dushala and Dhritrashtra's illegitimate son Yuyutsu .💠245CMR💠.• 👥 📜 07:17, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
We need citations for the definitions of his alternate names. Jihnmayodhin is said here to mean "fighter against falsehoods," but most sources online say it actually means "unfair/unmoral fighter," (Jihnma = morally crooked; Yodhin = fighter, according to these sources), referring to when he broke the rules of combat. DaCashman ( talk) 06:56, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
Much better sourcing is required for this article. As it is now, the article relies way too heavily on individual opinion and primary sourcing. Best, Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 01:49, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
Bhima didn't win against karna on the16th day. Arjuna randi ( talk) 14:53, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
Other days of the war are missing Arjuna randi ( talk) 14:54, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
https://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m01/m01002.htm https://sanskritdocuments.org/mirrors/mahabharata/ https://sanskritdocuments.org/ https://sacred-texts.com/hin/m07/m07195.htm https://sanskritdocuments.org/mirrors/mahabharata/unic/mbh01_sa.html
I will add more references later.
Can anyone please provide accurate sources than writing bogus on this page. Bhima never defeated karna other than the 14th day and even Then karna defeated bhima multiple times after that. This article is extremely biased and inconsistent. Shiraj chandra ( talk) 18:37, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
Hello @ Lord kai07:
I have noticed your change on Bhima's rajasuya conquest. You have edited the text stating that Bhima was defeated by Karna. Even though the reference link of KMG is stating otherwise. I would like to hear your thoughts on this.
I wanted to undo your revision. But noticed that you yourself has made this edit by undoing someone else's. I don't want to start an unintended edit war. Hence I am abstaining from it for now.
On another note. You have started an edit war with my previous edit regarding Bhima's fourteenth day of the war without providing a proper citation or starting a talk page topic as per the Wikipedia community guidelines. LakshmanReddy72 ( talk) 19:40, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
The Karna s digvijay yatra isn't a complete interpolation. It's briefly mentioned in the BORI CE. Then bhima and satyaki beating karna isn't clear either. Multiple sources suggest that bhima had help from Arjuna and so did Karna.it wasn't an individual battle,rather a battle royale and Krishna helped satyaki by giving him his divine chariot. So these victories and defeats are uncertain with different outcomes across different versions. The 14th day edit clearly states "With the outcome changing every time". Meaning they both won and lost multiple times. Karna is given the victory, because he was the last man standing or the victor of the last battle, hence the winning conclusion. The rajasuya conquest is extremely unclear. Even the source says Bhima only subjugated Karna, but that doesn't mean it's a defeat. It could just have been a simple political discussion. Without any references,@ Lakshmanreddy72:, personally attacks me for an unclear ,unsourced edit. Isn't that unprofessional? I don't want to start an edit war or any kind of discussion on that matter. If he has a verified source,which actually suggests bhima's Victory,then please be my guest and Change the edits , if not then end the discussion! Lord kai07 ( talk) 06:57, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
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