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Sorry, but I didn't have time to write a full article. The sources quoted contain plenty of additional information. Philg88 contact 07:58, 10 May 2024 UTC [ refresh
Stuart Allan's book Commando Country mentions a German raid on a British radar station on the Isle of Wight, probably in 1941. The reference is a JRUSI report by Major-General Laycock so is a very reliable source. I asked around about this and was told there were believed to have been casualties. Perhaps this should be classed as the last battle on British soil with an enemy force? -- jmb ( talk) 17:13, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
I have to concur with the last comment here. If this is considered a "battle" then we had a lot more of them much later involving the Irish Republican Army and British forces in Ulster between the 1960s and 1980s. Battle? Not even close. Skirmish? Very possibly. Silly headlines to claim some local bragging rights (and improve tourism)? Most definitely. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.22.14.10 ( talk) 15:35, 4 October 2016 (UTC)
I took out 'which is still standing today' since it was the first mention of the pub. Why is it significant? Did it feature in the battle? 91.104.205.140 ( talk) 13:41, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Is it correct to describe the aircrew as an 'invading' force? Their mission was to bomb Britain, not invade it, and they were forced down deliberately on British soil whereas they intended to return to Germany. Could we say 'a hostile foreign force'? PhilUK ( talk) 18:16, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
'what they recognized as a new variant of Junkers 88'... did the Spitfires and Hurricanes recognise this? Unlikely. Also, for this date, it is highly unlikely that this would have been a new variant... either it would be a known A-1 version, or a C variant, which is not a bomber. Citation requested.
'the bomber, which was equipped with a new and very accurate type of bombsight'... this would be a LotFe 7, which was standard fitted to German aircraft at this time. Although arguably accurate, it was not exactly new. Citation requested.
Are there any alternative sources for this other than local websites and tabloid newspapers? Official military records or independent peer-reviewed research would greatly enhance this article, which seems to exaggerate the significance of the event.
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Sorry, but I didn't have time to write a full article. The sources quoted contain plenty of additional information. Philg88 contact 07:58, 10 May 2024 UTC [ refresh
Stuart Allan's book Commando Country mentions a German raid on a British radar station on the Isle of Wight, probably in 1941. The reference is a JRUSI report by Major-General Laycock so is a very reliable source. I asked around about this and was told there were believed to have been casualties. Perhaps this should be classed as the last battle on British soil with an enemy force? -- jmb ( talk) 17:13, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
I have to concur with the last comment here. If this is considered a "battle" then we had a lot more of them much later involving the Irish Republican Army and British forces in Ulster between the 1960s and 1980s. Battle? Not even close. Skirmish? Very possibly. Silly headlines to claim some local bragging rights (and improve tourism)? Most definitely. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.22.14.10 ( talk) 15:35, 4 October 2016 (UTC)
I took out 'which is still standing today' since it was the first mention of the pub. Why is it significant? Did it feature in the battle? 91.104.205.140 ( talk) 13:41, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Is it correct to describe the aircrew as an 'invading' force? Their mission was to bomb Britain, not invade it, and they were forced down deliberately on British soil whereas they intended to return to Germany. Could we say 'a hostile foreign force'? PhilUK ( talk) 18:16, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
'what they recognized as a new variant of Junkers 88'... did the Spitfires and Hurricanes recognise this? Unlikely. Also, for this date, it is highly unlikely that this would have been a new variant... either it would be a known A-1 version, or a C variant, which is not a bomber. Citation requested.
'the bomber, which was equipped with a new and very accurate type of bombsight'... this would be a LotFe 7, which was standard fitted to German aircraft at this time. Although arguably accurate, it was not exactly new. Citation requested.
Are there any alternative sources for this other than local websites and tabloid newspapers? Official military records or independent peer-reviewed research would greatly enhance this article, which seems to exaggerate the significance of the event.