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Isn't there a better source than Isaac Asimov? I'm sure he's a great science fiction author but I can't imagine he made any major contributions to Byzantine studies. Wouldn't his book just be summaries of other standard books, a tertiary source at best? Adam Bishop 01:01, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
OK. I'll remove him and try and find another source to replace him with. Also Iw ould like your opinion on were or not to add Venice to the combatants and if the siege should be considered as part of the battle. Thanks. Kyriakos 02:18, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
Actually, Asimov – in addition to being a grandmaster of SF – was one of the only authors (maybe the only one) to write one book in every major dewey decimal category. So while I don't know about his expertise on the Byzantines per se (and there are certainly more precise sources we can use), I wouldn't dismiss him out of hand, just because he had skills on the SF mic (as the kids say).
But I didn't come here to discuss that; I'm here to copyedit. So let's get to it!
More to come! I hope this is useful. Nice work on the article and good luck with future work. –
Scartol ·
Talk 15:48, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
I have to sign this again or SineBot will sign it for me. Curse you, SineBot! – Scartol · Talk 17:42, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
The article reads nicely but there are some issues that need to be addressed before it passes its GA nomination.
Let me know when you're done with this or if you have any question. Good luck, -- Victor12 17:55, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
OK, I think I have addressed all of your points. If you can see anything else that can be improved from the edits that I have made or any issues I have not addressed properly please tell me. Thanks. Kyriakos 13:50, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
Thera are errors in the map in infobox of this article. The seljuk sultanate of rum never spread so far to east and south, and sultan Suleyman I took Antioch by 1084. In 1081 it was still in byzantine hands.-- Krzychu ( talk) 18:29, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
Since this article is about European history, it should follow European date formatting (day month year) rather than the current one (month day year). NerdyNSK ( talk) 01:15, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
Which map do you find more appropriate for the infobox, Image:1080.png or the current Image:Italy and Illyria 1084 v2.svg? NerdyNSK ( talk) 01:07, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
The map is incorrect. There were no principalities of Serbia on that teritory stated. That teritory is Kingdom of Doclea, Princedom of Doclea became independent in 1042 from Byzantine Empire after the Battle at Bar, and later it expanded, taking Rascia and Bosnia. In 1077. it was recognised as kingdom by the Pope. This map is accurate: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Early_medieval_Balkans.png — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.155.63.215 ( talk) 13:50, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
Copied from MILHIST as per guidance
Overall, seems OK. Referencing could be more consistent (if you directly refer to an author's opinion, you should pinpoint where it occurs in their writing, which isn't always done here). I'd like to see some reference to the work of Georgios Theotokis, whose has written academic works on the Norman campaigns in the Balkans in recent years
Monstrelet ( talk) 13:54, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
Are there other sources that describe the naval battle? G.A. Loud describes that "the Venetians had already been defeated, albeit with some difficulty, before the Byzantin army appeared." Loud, Graham. The Age of Robert Guiscard: Southern Italy and the Northern Conquest. 2014. P.218 2003:C0:9748:5500:70CE:6D35:C60:2957 ( talk) 19:03, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
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Isn't there a better source than Isaac Asimov? I'm sure he's a great science fiction author but I can't imagine he made any major contributions to Byzantine studies. Wouldn't his book just be summaries of other standard books, a tertiary source at best? Adam Bishop 01:01, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
OK. I'll remove him and try and find another source to replace him with. Also Iw ould like your opinion on were or not to add Venice to the combatants and if the siege should be considered as part of the battle. Thanks. Kyriakos 02:18, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
Actually, Asimov – in addition to being a grandmaster of SF – was one of the only authors (maybe the only one) to write one book in every major dewey decimal category. So while I don't know about his expertise on the Byzantines per se (and there are certainly more precise sources we can use), I wouldn't dismiss him out of hand, just because he had skills on the SF mic (as the kids say).
But I didn't come here to discuss that; I'm here to copyedit. So let's get to it!
More to come! I hope this is useful. Nice work on the article and good luck with future work. –
Scartol ·
Talk 15:48, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
I have to sign this again or SineBot will sign it for me. Curse you, SineBot! – Scartol · Talk 17:42, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
The article reads nicely but there are some issues that need to be addressed before it passes its GA nomination.
Let me know when you're done with this or if you have any question. Good luck, -- Victor12 17:55, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
OK, I think I have addressed all of your points. If you can see anything else that can be improved from the edits that I have made or any issues I have not addressed properly please tell me. Thanks. Kyriakos 13:50, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
Thera are errors in the map in infobox of this article. The seljuk sultanate of rum never spread so far to east and south, and sultan Suleyman I took Antioch by 1084. In 1081 it was still in byzantine hands.-- Krzychu ( talk) 18:29, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
Since this article is about European history, it should follow European date formatting (day month year) rather than the current one (month day year). NerdyNSK ( talk) 01:15, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
Which map do you find more appropriate for the infobox, Image:1080.png or the current Image:Italy and Illyria 1084 v2.svg? NerdyNSK ( talk) 01:07, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
The map is incorrect. There were no principalities of Serbia on that teritory stated. That teritory is Kingdom of Doclea, Princedom of Doclea became independent in 1042 from Byzantine Empire after the Battle at Bar, and later it expanded, taking Rascia and Bosnia. In 1077. it was recognised as kingdom by the Pope. This map is accurate: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Early_medieval_Balkans.png — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.155.63.215 ( talk) 13:50, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
Copied from MILHIST as per guidance
Overall, seems OK. Referencing could be more consistent (if you directly refer to an author's opinion, you should pinpoint where it occurs in their writing, which isn't always done here). I'd like to see some reference to the work of Georgios Theotokis, whose has written academic works on the Norman campaigns in the Balkans in recent years
Monstrelet ( talk) 13:54, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
Are there other sources that describe the naval battle? G.A. Loud describes that "the Venetians had already been defeated, albeit with some difficulty, before the Byzantin army appeared." Loud, Graham. The Age of Robert Guiscard: Southern Italy and the Northern Conquest. 2014. P.218 2003:C0:9748:5500:70CE:6D35:C60:2957 ( talk) 19:03, 17 April 2024 (UTC)