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Odoacer article says this coin celebrates Zeno.-- 213.141.142.41 13:14, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
Is it apt to refer to Basiliscus as a Byzantine Emperor? I realize the dividing line is somewhat arbitrary, and open to debate, but wherein the Western Roman Empire did not fall until after Basiliscus became emperor in the east, does this not make him still at least an Eastern Roman Emperor by modern description? Hiberniantears 18:04, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
I agree with Hiberniantears' excellent point. 19:06, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
I am deleting the picture given of Ayasofya (present name of Hagia Sophia) because it is totally inappropriate for this article. The photo given is of doubtful imagination; just a photo reconstructed by eliminating the minarets. It does not depict the real Ayasofya as it exists at present. It does not represent the Ayasofya reconstructed by Justinian either. It had undergone many repairs after repeated earthquake damage (at 552, 859, 994, 1317 etc.) Especially the buttresses shown on the imaginary photo were added in 1317. Thus, it definitely is not in the shape of the cathedral, which was constructed by the architect Rufinius during the reign of Arcadius at 415 in shape of a basilica with a wooden roof, which was the Hagia Sophia that Basiliscus took refugee in. Noyder ( talk) 10:05, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
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Smith wrote in 1870 and gives credence to the ancient sources, much like Will Durant did. The other ref is the DIR website - which is not bad but is just an amateur site. Modern reference works, which reflect the actual capacity of the East-Roman Empire at this time, should be used. I am away from my private library for the immediate future, but I'm sure others would kick in to re-align this portion of the operation against the Vandals. Yes, it was a large military operation, but not in those numbers - I've tagged the statement accordingly. 50.111.10.215 ( talk) 07:29, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
This article was slated to appear in OTD for 9 Jan (tomorrow) with the blurb:
But it was pointed out that this is not sourced in the article (which appears to source only his coronation a few days later), and it has been removed, which is a pity as dates outside 19th–21st centuries are scarce. Can anyone help out here? Regards, Espresso Addict ( talk) 08:19, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
Just to make anyone who watches this article aware, I plan to totally rewrite this article within my userspace, before nuking the article, as it's currently quite a big mess, and would not survive a FAR. At this point, getting out content whose source is lost/unreliable would be harder at this point than for me to just totally rewrite it. Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 22:49, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
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Unfortunately, I have to depart, but I got halfway through "Military career" and will continue this later. Z1720 ( talk) 01:03, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
Later has arrived:
That's it for my first readthrough. Please ping when the above have been responded to. Z1720 ( talk) 21:50, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
Additional questions. Most of these have to do with adding something in the text about who the people cited in the article are, and can probably be fixed with adding "historian" in front of the person's name. (Although alternatives would be nice, as there's a lot of people whose credentials have to be established).
Other than the credentials issue mentioned above, I think this article is ready to be declared "Satisfactory" Z1720 ( talk) 02:08, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
"He utilized the support of the Isaurians, marrying the Isaurian chieftain Zeno (r. 474–475, 476–491) to his daughter Ariadne, in exchange for support." - The link to Ariadne doesn't seem to be the right one. Hog Farm Talk 23:21, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
If Marcus was co-emperor shouldn't this be marked in the lead and infobox? Marcus's own article has the latter (and he is included in the emperors nav box), but I don't know the protocol (or full context) for these sorts of things. Aza24 ( talk) 06:04, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
What's our reference for File:Europe and the Near East at 476 AD.png? I found these sources:
@ GPinkerton said on Commons:File talk:Europe and the Near East at 476 AD.png: "The area marked "Picts" is too far south; the Picts' territory was to the north of the Clyde-Forth line." The above sources agree on this. a455bcd9 (Antoine) ( talk) 08:21, 13 December 2022 (UTC)
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Odoacer article says this coin celebrates Zeno.-- 213.141.142.41 13:14, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
Is it apt to refer to Basiliscus as a Byzantine Emperor? I realize the dividing line is somewhat arbitrary, and open to debate, but wherein the Western Roman Empire did not fall until after Basiliscus became emperor in the east, does this not make him still at least an Eastern Roman Emperor by modern description? Hiberniantears 18:04, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
I agree with Hiberniantears' excellent point. 19:06, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
I am deleting the picture given of Ayasofya (present name of Hagia Sophia) because it is totally inappropriate for this article. The photo given is of doubtful imagination; just a photo reconstructed by eliminating the minarets. It does not depict the real Ayasofya as it exists at present. It does not represent the Ayasofya reconstructed by Justinian either. It had undergone many repairs after repeated earthquake damage (at 552, 859, 994, 1317 etc.) Especially the buttresses shown on the imaginary photo were added in 1317. Thus, it definitely is not in the shape of the cathedral, which was constructed by the architect Rufinius during the reign of Arcadius at 415 in shape of a basilica with a wooden roof, which was the Hagia Sophia that Basiliscus took refugee in. Noyder ( talk) 10:05, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
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Smith wrote in 1870 and gives credence to the ancient sources, much like Will Durant did. The other ref is the DIR website - which is not bad but is just an amateur site. Modern reference works, which reflect the actual capacity of the East-Roman Empire at this time, should be used. I am away from my private library for the immediate future, but I'm sure others would kick in to re-align this portion of the operation against the Vandals. Yes, it was a large military operation, but not in those numbers - I've tagged the statement accordingly. 50.111.10.215 ( talk) 07:29, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
This article was slated to appear in OTD for 9 Jan (tomorrow) with the blurb:
But it was pointed out that this is not sourced in the article (which appears to source only his coronation a few days later), and it has been removed, which is a pity as dates outside 19th–21st centuries are scarce. Can anyone help out here? Regards, Espresso Addict ( talk) 08:19, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
Just to make anyone who watches this article aware, I plan to totally rewrite this article within my userspace, before nuking the article, as it's currently quite a big mess, and would not survive a FAR. At this point, getting out content whose source is lost/unreliable would be harder at this point than for me to just totally rewrite it. Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 22:49, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
I was asked here to do a review of this article. As I read through the article, I conducted a copyedit with various changes. I might have inadvertently changed the meaning of sentences, so please revert and note below so I can learn more about what is needed for this article. General comments and questions are below; to keep this organised, please post under the bullet point that you are responding to.
Unfortunately, I have to depart, but I got halfway through "Military career" and will continue this later. Z1720 ( talk) 01:03, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
Later has arrived:
That's it for my first readthrough. Please ping when the above have been responded to. Z1720 ( talk) 21:50, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
Additional questions. Most of these have to do with adding something in the text about who the people cited in the article are, and can probably be fixed with adding "historian" in front of the person's name. (Although alternatives would be nice, as there's a lot of people whose credentials have to be established).
Other than the credentials issue mentioned above, I think this article is ready to be declared "Satisfactory" Z1720 ( talk) 02:08, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
"He utilized the support of the Isaurians, marrying the Isaurian chieftain Zeno (r. 474–475, 476–491) to his daughter Ariadne, in exchange for support." - The link to Ariadne doesn't seem to be the right one. Hog Farm Talk 23:21, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
If Marcus was co-emperor shouldn't this be marked in the lead and infobox? Marcus's own article has the latter (and he is included in the emperors nav box), but I don't know the protocol (or full context) for these sorts of things. Aza24 ( talk) 06:04, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
What's our reference for File:Europe and the Near East at 476 AD.png? I found these sources:
@ GPinkerton said on Commons:File talk:Europe and the Near East at 476 AD.png: "The area marked "Picts" is too far south; the Picts' territory was to the north of the Clyde-Forth line." The above sources agree on this. a455bcd9 (Antoine) ( talk) 08:21, 13 December 2022 (UTC)