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I plan to record this article in time for it's feature on 27 July 2023. Just a heads up! TahnDom铆n ( talk) 15:42, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
We're just a few days away from seeing this article on the Main Page, so I have an urgent inquiry to be addressed, specifically regarding vehicle traffic during the first couple years after the highway opened. I previously cited the book source Gambling on the American Dream which states the following:
The book does mention a citation for the statistics but I am unable to access it due to the limitations of Google Books.
However, looking at the SJTA's annual reports, these numbers are significantly different. Their 2002 Annual Report states:
Their 2002 Annual Report (which can only be viewed as a Flash file extracted from a ZIP file found here) states:
Calculations:
Year | Book source | SJTA source |
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2001 | 11,000 (after the Sept 11 attacks) | 23,000 (Sept-Dec) |
2002 | 18,000-20,000 | 23,836 |
2003 | 25,000 | 29,863 (source rounds up this number to 30,000) |
My question is, which statistics should be we using here? 鈥 Dream聽out聽loud聽( talk) 07:58, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
Imzadi 1979, regarding your revert here, i believe "New Jersey governor" and "Atlantic City mayor" are not considered titles, but descriptions. there's a brief relevant discussion on this topic archived here, and a much longer current discussion here聽[ perm. dying ( talk) 21:38, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
Thus "Governor Whitman" and "Mayor Whelan" should have the title capitalized as I described above. There's no exception in the MOS for titles that are not heads of state. I'd also note again that adding the state or city name doesn't suddenly convert the actual title ("Governor" or "Mayor") into a non-title when it is in front of a person's name, so even then "New Jersey Governor Whitman" is still correct. Imzadi聽1979聽 鈫 02:34, 25 July 2023 (UTC)They are capitalized only in the following cases... When followed by a person's name to form a title, i.e., when they can be considered to have become part of the name: President Nixon, not president Nixon; Pope John XXIII, not pope John XXIII.
TahnDom铆n ( talk) 19:05, 26 July 2023 (UTC)
I was reading the opening of this article as the featured article. As a former New Yorker, when I see "Route 87". my first thought is Interstate 87 (New York). Should Route 87 be qualified as "state" or written out as " New Jersey Route 87"? I recognize my perspective is that of a quasi=local. I don't know if the additional text would help enough people to justify even one more word when there is a link. Just my thoughts. 2600:4040:7F7A:1300:8C9F:6000:C27F:8558 ( talk) 13:25, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
The article described this road as a "connector freeway" (linked to the connector road article), but later notes that there is an at-grade railroad crossing. From my understanding of the definition of "freeway" (especially the part about limited access), an at-grade crossing makes this not a freeway. Another term should be used, or the discrepancy explained (does the "freeway" designation begin after the rail crossing?). Piledhigheranddeeper ( talk) 17:26, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
I would like you to possibly be able for us to edit this passage. It is popular and it will protect it from vandalism. Over5help550 ( talk) 21:55, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
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I plan to record this article in time for it's feature on 27 July 2023. Just a heads up! TahnDom铆n ( talk) 15:42, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
We're just a few days away from seeing this article on the Main Page, so I have an urgent inquiry to be addressed, specifically regarding vehicle traffic during the first couple years after the highway opened. I previously cited the book source Gambling on the American Dream which states the following:
The book does mention a citation for the statistics but I am unable to access it due to the limitations of Google Books.
However, looking at the SJTA's annual reports, these numbers are significantly different. Their 2002 Annual Report states:
Their 2002 Annual Report (which can only be viewed as a Flash file extracted from a ZIP file found here) states:
Calculations:
Year | Book source | SJTA source |
---|---|---|
2001 | 11,000 (after the Sept 11 attacks) | 23,000 (Sept-Dec) |
2002 | 18,000-20,000 | 23,836 |
2003 | 25,000 | 29,863 (source rounds up this number to 30,000) |
My question is, which statistics should be we using here? 鈥 Dream聽out聽loud聽( talk) 07:58, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
Imzadi 1979, regarding your revert here, i believe "New Jersey governor" and "Atlantic City mayor" are not considered titles, but descriptions. there's a brief relevant discussion on this topic archived here, and a much longer current discussion here聽[ perm. dying ( talk) 21:38, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
Thus "Governor Whitman" and "Mayor Whelan" should have the title capitalized as I described above. There's no exception in the MOS for titles that are not heads of state. I'd also note again that adding the state or city name doesn't suddenly convert the actual title ("Governor" or "Mayor") into a non-title when it is in front of a person's name, so even then "New Jersey Governor Whitman" is still correct. Imzadi聽1979聽 鈫 02:34, 25 July 2023 (UTC)They are capitalized only in the following cases... When followed by a person's name to form a title, i.e., when they can be considered to have become part of the name: President Nixon, not president Nixon; Pope John XXIII, not pope John XXIII.
TahnDom铆n ( talk) 19:05, 26 July 2023 (UTC)
I was reading the opening of this article as the featured article. As a former New Yorker, when I see "Route 87". my first thought is Interstate 87 (New York). Should Route 87 be qualified as "state" or written out as " New Jersey Route 87"? I recognize my perspective is that of a quasi=local. I don't know if the additional text would help enough people to justify even one more word when there is a link. Just my thoughts. 2600:4040:7F7A:1300:8C9F:6000:C27F:8558 ( talk) 13:25, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
The article described this road as a "connector freeway" (linked to the connector road article), but later notes that there is an at-grade railroad crossing. From my understanding of the definition of "freeway" (especially the part about limited access), an at-grade crossing makes this not a freeway. Another term should be used, or the discrepancy explained (does the "freeway" designation begin after the rail crossing?). Piledhigheranddeeper ( talk) 17:26, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
I would like you to possibly be able for us to edit this passage. It is popular and it will protect it from vandalism. Over5help550 ( talk) 21:55, 27 July 2023 (UTC)