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England football team matches v Argentina was nominated for deletion. The discussion was closed on 13 April 2009 with a consensus to merge. Its contents were merged into Argentina鈥揈ngland football rivalry. The original page is now a redirect to this page. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected article, please see its history; for its talk page, see here. |
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A list of the all the matches (friendlies, non-FIFA?, etc) would be good.
I'm considering putting this article (as well as some others on football rivalry) forward for an AfD debate. My reasoning is as follows:
So as a result I am suggesting that this article be partially cut down and reinserted into more relevant pages such as the argentine football team, english football team pages as well as incident specific pages such as the hand of god article. I will leave this here for a week or so and guage opinion on the matter and then from the arguements put forward I will decide whether to nominate this for an AfD. WikipedianProlific (Talk) 14:57, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
I wonder if the solution may be to broaden the scope of this article into two seperate articles on English football rivalries and Argentine football rivalries, as both sides have rivalries with other nations to, which makes this article a bit 2 dimensional, because it suggests the rivlary with argentina is unique for england and vice versa, which we've established isn't the case for either side. If we consider another rivlary, the Oxbrdige Rivalry thats a unique rivalry between two universities, so the article is justified, but here the rivalries are not specifically unique or out of the ordinary. The interesting thing is, in the case of England, the rivlary with Germany, France, Wales and Scotland is often more prominent than the one with Argentina, yet here is the one with the article. I wonder if this is the same for Argentina, perhaps these days the rivalry with Chile is more obvious than that with England? So maybe expanding this into two seperate, broader articles? WikipedianProlific (Talk) 07:02, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
Hernan Crespo talking about a match between Argentina-England: Es un cl谩sico (sic) internacional. Es lo m谩s cerca que hay a un Argentina-Brasil y significa mucho (Is an international derby. Is the closest thing to an Argentina-Brazil and have a great significance)
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Jor70 19:17, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
Newly reference: Alfio Basile A 'classico' for Argentina is a game against Brazil in first place, England in second and then Uruguay," he said. telegraph.co.uk -- Jor70 20:30, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
The article is good as it is and should not be deleted. After reading the reasons for possible deletion i'm still convinced all given alternatives are second best. The article need a little more neutral phrasing, thats all. Greetings, Jon. Jonathan0007 ( talk) 08:52, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
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Hi everyone.
At the beginning of the article says:
"England is regarded in Argentina as one of the major rivals of the national football team, matched only by Brazil and Uruguay."
I would add Chile at that count that is a country that has a sport rivalry with Argentina originated by non-sport reasson being very similar to this one. 鈥斅燩receding unsigned comment added by Angel Millo ( talk 鈥 contribs) 20:20, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
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A list of the all the matches (friendlies, non-FIFA?, etc) would be good.
I'm considering putting this article (as well as some others on football rivalry) forward for an AfD debate. My reasoning is as follows:
So as a result I am suggesting that this article be partially cut down and reinserted into more relevant pages such as the argentine football team, english football team pages as well as incident specific pages such as the hand of god article. I will leave this here for a week or so and guage opinion on the matter and then from the arguements put forward I will decide whether to nominate this for an AfD. WikipedianProlific (Talk) 14:57, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
I wonder if the solution may be to broaden the scope of this article into two seperate articles on English football rivalries and Argentine football rivalries, as both sides have rivalries with other nations to, which makes this article a bit 2 dimensional, because it suggests the rivlary with argentina is unique for england and vice versa, which we've established isn't the case for either side. If we consider another rivlary, the Oxbrdige Rivalry thats a unique rivalry between two universities, so the article is justified, but here the rivalries are not specifically unique or out of the ordinary. The interesting thing is, in the case of England, the rivlary with Germany, France, Wales and Scotland is often more prominent than the one with Argentina, yet here is the one with the article. I wonder if this is the same for Argentina, perhaps these days the rivalry with Chile is more obvious than that with England? So maybe expanding this into two seperate, broader articles? WikipedianProlific (Talk) 07:02, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
Hernan Crespo talking about a match between Argentina-England: Es un cl谩sico (sic) internacional. Es lo m谩s cerca que hay a un Argentina-Brasil y significa mucho (Is an international derby. Is the closest thing to an Argentina-Brazil and have a great significance)
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Jor70 19:17, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
Newly reference: Alfio Basile A 'classico' for Argentina is a game against Brazil in first place, England in second and then Uruguay," he said. telegraph.co.uk -- Jor70 20:30, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
The article is good as it is and should not be deleted. After reading the reasons for possible deletion i'm still convinced all given alternatives are second best. The article need a little more neutral phrasing, thats all. Greetings, Jon. Jonathan0007 ( talk) 08:52, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
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Hi everyone.
At the beginning of the article says:
"England is regarded in Argentina as one of the major rivals of the national football team, matched only by Brazil and Uruguay."
I would add Chile at that count that is a country that has a sport rivalry with Argentina originated by non-sport reasson being very similar to this one. 鈥斅燩receding unsigned comment added by Angel Millo ( talk 鈥 contribs) 20:20, 29 March 2020 (UTC)