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I propose merging Anastasia Mayers and Keisha Schahaff into a new page. At present, much of the content on these two pages is the same, so it doesn't necessarily make sense to have them separated. I'm open to keeping them separated, though, too. (@ CROIX:) Significa liberdade ( talk) 05:09, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
- I think it would be more appropriate to discuss a merger, if it is needed after the launch (on 10 August), as the attention from the launch may result in significant attention for each of them as individuals. CROIX talk 05:34, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
She did not travel beyond the internationally recognized boundary to space. Virgin galactic flights are just glorified rollercoaster rides, now what are we going to create an article for every person who rides a plane or a rollercoaster? Therefore i nominate this article for deletion. Μιχαήλ Δεληγιάννης ( talk) 15:25, 11 August 2023 (UTC)
- It received international attention and all of the sources seem to be pretty reliable. @ Mikedelis CROIX talk 16:26, 11 August 2023 (UTC)
- Although I'm open to the suggestion that all information about the tourists who went on this flight ought to be in the article about the flight, rather than articles about themselves, I'm a little uncomfortable that you have focused only on Anastatia Mayers and Keisha Schahaff, and haven't proposed cutting the same information from the (admittedly pre-existing) article for the third tourist, Jon Goodwin. W gant ( talk) 17:44, 11 August 2023 (UTC)
- There is a prima facie case for at least 1E notability, as the U.S. government defines space starting at 80km, and she breached that limit, being the first Caribbean woman into "space", and the first mother-daughter pair. There are many news reports covering her, so she appears to at least be 1E notable. -- 67.70.25.80 ( talk) 04:11, 12 August 2023 (UTC)
- I mean, Wikipedia has an article on the Kentucky meat shower. So some meat, or cyanobacteria, or whatever, fell from the sky, which doesn't usually happen. Who cares? Yet that's "notable", apparently. Meanwhile, we have the youngest person to go to space; youngest woman; first mother-daughter pair; (as mentioned above), first teenager; first black teenager, first people from the Caribb in general and from Antigua and Barbados specifically; yadda yadda yadda yadda yadda, plus they managed to go by winning tickets rather than buying their way outright like typical space tourism fat cats.
- If the first person in space EVER had been a black 18-year-old girl, and in 2023 the first older Russian dude went into space, would that not be notable? I'm just asking questions ;-) 107.190.6.63 ( talk) 06:00, 12 August 2023 (UTC)
- Very notable so keep these pages as is. Not the first teenager though. Was she younger than Oliver Daemen when she flew? He was 18 years 344 days I believe. If the birthdate is right in her infobox then she'd be younger. Randy Kryn ( talk) 13:46, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
A commercial astronaut needs some responsibility for the flight, being a passenger makes her a space tourist. We should also discuss that she only reached space by the FAA definition of it. We do that everywhere else, too ( North American X-15, Robert Michael White, ...). mfb ( talk) 09:10, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
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| The contents of the Anastatia Mayers page were merged into Keisha Schahaff and Anastatia Mayers on March 31, 2024 and it now redirects there. For the contribution history and old versions of the merged article please see its history. |
- The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
I propose merging Anastasia Mayers and Keisha Schahaff into a new page. At present, much of the content on these two pages is the same, so it doesn't necessarily make sense to have them separated. I'm open to keeping them separated, though, too. (@ CROIX:) Significa liberdade ( talk) 05:09, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
- I think it would be more appropriate to discuss a merger, if it is needed after the launch (on 10 August), as the attention from the launch may result in significant attention for each of them as individuals. CROIX talk 05:34, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
She did not travel beyond the internationally recognized boundary to space. Virgin galactic flights are just glorified rollercoaster rides, now what are we going to create an article for every person who rides a plane or a rollercoaster? Therefore i nominate this article for deletion. Μιχαήλ Δεληγιάννης ( talk) 15:25, 11 August 2023 (UTC)
- It received international attention and all of the sources seem to be pretty reliable. @ Mikedelis CROIX talk 16:26, 11 August 2023 (UTC)
- Although I'm open to the suggestion that all information about the tourists who went on this flight ought to be in the article about the flight, rather than articles about themselves, I'm a little uncomfortable that you have focused only on Anastatia Mayers and Keisha Schahaff, and haven't proposed cutting the same information from the (admittedly pre-existing) article for the third tourist, Jon Goodwin. W gant ( talk) 17:44, 11 August 2023 (UTC)
- There is a prima facie case for at least 1E notability, as the U.S. government defines space starting at 80km, and she breached that limit, being the first Caribbean woman into "space", and the first mother-daughter pair. There are many news reports covering her, so she appears to at least be 1E notable. -- 67.70.25.80 ( talk) 04:11, 12 August 2023 (UTC)
- I mean, Wikipedia has an article on the Kentucky meat shower. So some meat, or cyanobacteria, or whatever, fell from the sky, which doesn't usually happen. Who cares? Yet that's "notable", apparently. Meanwhile, we have the youngest person to go to space; youngest woman; first mother-daughter pair; (as mentioned above), first teenager; first black teenager, first people from the Caribb in general and from Antigua and Barbados specifically; yadda yadda yadda yadda yadda, plus they managed to go by winning tickets rather than buying their way outright like typical space tourism fat cats.
- If the first person in space EVER had been a black 18-year-old girl, and in 2023 the first older Russian dude went into space, would that not be notable? I'm just asking questions ;-) 107.190.6.63 ( talk) 06:00, 12 August 2023 (UTC)
- Very notable so keep these pages as is. Not the first teenager though. Was she younger than Oliver Daemen when she flew? He was 18 years 344 days I believe. If the birthdate is right in her infobox then she'd be younger. Randy Kryn ( talk) 13:46, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
A commercial astronaut needs some responsibility for the flight, being a passenger makes her a space tourist. We should also discuss that she only reached space by the FAA definition of it. We do that everywhere else, too ( North American X-15, Robert Michael White, ...). mfb ( talk) 09:10, 17 September 2023 (UTC)