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John - I like your change to "exhibit synapomorphy" in the prose, but I think it may be too technical for the average reader. Each time I went through the review process, DYK-GA-FA, I was advised to make the terminology less scientific, and more reader friendly, even though the wikilinks provided a description. In this particular instance, even the wikilink is technical. Can you help? Thanks in advance.... Atsme☯ Consult 18:42, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
It seems many fish articles completely lack information on their culinary uses, cooking techniques, quality of flesh, market sizes and cuts, and more. It appears this fish is mostly fished for caviar, which is briefly mentioned in the article, but that can be expanded along with aspects of its meat, which is apparently widely used and delicious. I'm surprised this passed FA with hardly a mention of culinary uses.-- ɱ (talk · vbm) 16:24, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
User:Apokryltaros, the actual quote from the cited source (USGS) is "Paddlefish are one of the oldest fishes, with fossil records dating their first appearance at 300 to 400 million years ago (about 50 million years before the first dinosaurs appeared)." [2] I also have books authored by experts that confirm same but not here with me. Also, see Wisconsin DNR: [3] pg 7-91. I also cited new Yale study. The RS are in the 1st para, not in the lead as this is a FA. Atsme☯ Consult 16:48, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
Paddlefish are almost entirely cartilaginous. However, before we make any substantial changes to a FA, let's wait until we get some peer reviewed journal entries from Yale, and see where that takes us. Depending on what we find, there exists the option that we present both sides, provided there are two sides. I think we should wait based on our no deadline decree. Atsme☯ Consult 23:57, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
Per box at the top of this page, an editor has WP:SELFCITEd with regard to "earthwave". Those contribs need to be reviewed for NPOV and sourcing. Once the article is cleaned by an independent editor, the tag can be removed. If you do that, please leave a note here. Thanks. Jytdog ( talk) 22:57, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
As a phylogeneticist, the opener of this article makes me cringe. First, the terms 'basal' and 'primitive' are both antiquated and misleading at best or simply wrong at worst. Every organism has been subjected to evolution for an equally long time, so nothing is 'basal' or 'primitive' in regards to anything else. 'Early diverging' is widely agreed to be a much more fitting term for what is intended by these words. Second, cartilage is probably not a 'primitive' (eeek!) character for fish, but rather it likely a 'derived' character only found primarily in the Chondrichthyes because it is absent in earlier diverging lineages (see here A Silurian placoderm with osteichthyan-like marginal jaw bones) 24.8.94.39 ( talk) 15:09, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
There is inconsistency in the use of whether SI or Imperial units are stated first in this article. My understanding is that SI units should be used preferentially. Because this is a featured article, I thought I would discuss before making any changes.DrChrissy (talk) 23:18, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
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John - I like your change to "exhibit synapomorphy" in the prose, but I think it may be too technical for the average reader. Each time I went through the review process, DYK-GA-FA, I was advised to make the terminology less scientific, and more reader friendly, even though the wikilinks provided a description. In this particular instance, even the wikilink is technical. Can you help? Thanks in advance.... Atsme☯ Consult 18:42, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
It seems many fish articles completely lack information on their culinary uses, cooking techniques, quality of flesh, market sizes and cuts, and more. It appears this fish is mostly fished for caviar, which is briefly mentioned in the article, but that can be expanded along with aspects of its meat, which is apparently widely used and delicious. I'm surprised this passed FA with hardly a mention of culinary uses.-- ɱ (talk · vbm) 16:24, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
User:Apokryltaros, the actual quote from the cited source (USGS) is "Paddlefish are one of the oldest fishes, with fossil records dating their first appearance at 300 to 400 million years ago (about 50 million years before the first dinosaurs appeared)." [2] I also have books authored by experts that confirm same but not here with me. Also, see Wisconsin DNR: [3] pg 7-91. I also cited new Yale study. The RS are in the 1st para, not in the lead as this is a FA. Atsme☯ Consult 16:48, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
Paddlefish are almost entirely cartilaginous. However, before we make any substantial changes to a FA, let's wait until we get some peer reviewed journal entries from Yale, and see where that takes us. Depending on what we find, there exists the option that we present both sides, provided there are two sides. I think we should wait based on our no deadline decree. Atsme☯ Consult 23:57, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
Per box at the top of this page, an editor has WP:SELFCITEd with regard to "earthwave". Those contribs need to be reviewed for NPOV and sourcing. Once the article is cleaned by an independent editor, the tag can be removed. If you do that, please leave a note here. Thanks. Jytdog ( talk) 22:57, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
As a phylogeneticist, the opener of this article makes me cringe. First, the terms 'basal' and 'primitive' are both antiquated and misleading at best or simply wrong at worst. Every organism has been subjected to evolution for an equally long time, so nothing is 'basal' or 'primitive' in regards to anything else. 'Early diverging' is widely agreed to be a much more fitting term for what is intended by these words. Second, cartilage is probably not a 'primitive' (eeek!) character for fish, but rather it likely a 'derived' character only found primarily in the Chondrichthyes because it is absent in earlier diverging lineages (see here A Silurian placoderm with osteichthyan-like marginal jaw bones) 24.8.94.39 ( talk) 15:09, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
There is inconsistency in the use of whether SI or Imperial units are stated first in this article. My understanding is that SI units should be used preferentially. Because this is a featured article, I thought I would discuss before making any changes.DrChrissy (talk) 23:18, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
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