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Children of the Wolf and Founding Fathers are two titles for the same book [1]. And the date for Elephants and Castles is 1965, not 1973.

I have added descriptions where I remembered the book.-- GwydionM 20:10, 6 May 2007 (UTC) reply

I suspect Alfred the Great is a rebranding of The King of Athelney. And both Besieger of Cities and Castles are probably duplicates of Elephants and Castles. The Romans may be another duplicate.-- GwydionM 20:45, 6 May 2007 (UTC) reply

I could also find no details of Sword of Pleasure. It is not the same as The sword of pleasure by Peter Green. -- GwydionM 21:01, 6 May 2007 (UTC) reply

Congratulations on the update, Norvinl.-- GwydionM 18:15, 8 November 2007 (UTC) reply

Good work, Gwydion - this is much improved. The Romans is a nonfiction book for young readers. Castles appears to have been an error, perhaps for Elephants and Castles or perhaps for one of his children's nonfiction books Look at Castles or The Castle Book (which I suspect are different editions of the same book). In any case, a check of WorldCat turns up nothing by Duggan that is titled simply Castles. Margaret Donsbach ( talk) 01:19, 1 December 2008 (UTC) reply


I also cannot find any WorldCat listings for Alfred the Great or Sword of Pleasure. The Amazon.com listing for Alfred the Great has a description that refers to Winter Quarters. I suspect the Sword of Pleasure listing here is a conflation with Peter Green's Sword of Pleasure. Evidently, compilers of lists get cross-eyed sometimes and put the wrong author with a title because they are looking at the next author up or down on the list they're working from. It looks very odd to me that these two listings show publication dates of 2005 and 2007, some 40 years after Duggan's other novels were published. Gwydion, you may be correct that Alfred the Great is a reissue of The King of Athelney under another title. I think Sword of Pleasure is an error, and if no one can come up with definite knowledge about it, I would suggest it be removed. Perhaps Alfred the Great should be removed as well, if no one has definite knowledge about it. Margaret Donsbach ( talk) 01:57, 1 December 2008 (UTC) reply

Alfred the Great (2005) Sword of Pleasure (2006)

Deleted as discussed above. If anyone can confirm that Alfred the Great is a re-issue of The King of Athelney, perhaps they could add a note to that effect. Sword of Pleasure by Alfred Duggan appears not to exist, unless anyone can confirm otherwise. 77.44.122.220 ( talk) 10:24, 7 December 2009 (UTC) reply

Sorry, not logged in when I made the comment above RGCorris ( talk) 10:25, 7 December 2009 (UTC) reply

To Streona

What you put was too partisan. I don't like the Norman heritage either, but this is a reference work. I'm not familiar with the works you cited, but it would be nice to add a quote and say something like "this is much more pro-Norman than most historians". -- GwydionM 17:07, 18 October 2007 (UTC) reply

He started it !

I was somewhat irritated to read in my reproduction Look & Learn from Alfred Duggan that the Norman Conquest was in order to help out the English and that William had an hereditary claim to the throne(from Ethelred the Unready's brother-in-law) although he fails to mention that a third of the population were massacred. Against which the Viking raids stopped and slavery was abolished in 1102, so I am not entirely partisan (though he is). Unfortunately I have chucked it out. I believe that his book "The Cunning of the Dove" advances the thesis that the whole thing was a wizard wheeze set up by Edward the Confessor, which may be so, but not thereby a good idea. Streona 23:15, 21 October 2007 (UTC) reply

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Titles

Children of the Wolf and Founding Fathers are two titles for the same book [1]. And the date for Elephants and Castles is 1965, not 1973.

I have added descriptions where I remembered the book.-- GwydionM 20:10, 6 May 2007 (UTC) reply

I suspect Alfred the Great is a rebranding of The King of Athelney. And both Besieger of Cities and Castles are probably duplicates of Elephants and Castles. The Romans may be another duplicate.-- GwydionM 20:45, 6 May 2007 (UTC) reply

I could also find no details of Sword of Pleasure. It is not the same as The sword of pleasure by Peter Green. -- GwydionM 21:01, 6 May 2007 (UTC) reply

Congratulations on the update, Norvinl.-- GwydionM 18:15, 8 November 2007 (UTC) reply

Good work, Gwydion - this is much improved. The Romans is a nonfiction book for young readers. Castles appears to have been an error, perhaps for Elephants and Castles or perhaps for one of his children's nonfiction books Look at Castles or The Castle Book (which I suspect are different editions of the same book). In any case, a check of WorldCat turns up nothing by Duggan that is titled simply Castles. Margaret Donsbach ( talk) 01:19, 1 December 2008 (UTC) reply


I also cannot find any WorldCat listings for Alfred the Great or Sword of Pleasure. The Amazon.com listing for Alfred the Great has a description that refers to Winter Quarters. I suspect the Sword of Pleasure listing here is a conflation with Peter Green's Sword of Pleasure. Evidently, compilers of lists get cross-eyed sometimes and put the wrong author with a title because they are looking at the next author up or down on the list they're working from. It looks very odd to me that these two listings show publication dates of 2005 and 2007, some 40 years after Duggan's other novels were published. Gwydion, you may be correct that Alfred the Great is a reissue of The King of Athelney under another title. I think Sword of Pleasure is an error, and if no one can come up with definite knowledge about it, I would suggest it be removed. Perhaps Alfred the Great should be removed as well, if no one has definite knowledge about it. Margaret Donsbach ( talk) 01:57, 1 December 2008 (UTC) reply

Alfred the Great (2005) Sword of Pleasure (2006)

Deleted as discussed above. If anyone can confirm that Alfred the Great is a re-issue of The King of Athelney, perhaps they could add a note to that effect. Sword of Pleasure by Alfred Duggan appears not to exist, unless anyone can confirm otherwise. 77.44.122.220 ( talk) 10:24, 7 December 2009 (UTC) reply

Sorry, not logged in when I made the comment above RGCorris ( talk) 10:25, 7 December 2009 (UTC) reply

To Streona

What you put was too partisan. I don't like the Norman heritage either, but this is a reference work. I'm not familiar with the works you cited, but it would be nice to add a quote and say something like "this is much more pro-Norman than most historians". -- GwydionM 17:07, 18 October 2007 (UTC) reply

He started it !

I was somewhat irritated to read in my reproduction Look & Learn from Alfred Duggan that the Norman Conquest was in order to help out the English and that William had an hereditary claim to the throne(from Ethelred the Unready's brother-in-law) although he fails to mention that a third of the population were massacred. Against which the Viking raids stopped and slavery was abolished in 1102, so I am not entirely partisan (though he is). Unfortunately I have chucked it out. I believe that his book "The Cunning of the Dove" advances the thesis that the whole thing was a wizard wheeze set up by Edward the Confessor, which may be so, but not thereby a good idea. Streona 23:15, 21 October 2007 (UTC) reply


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