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Germany is a republic. No German titles are recognized. DrKay ( talk) 17:09, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
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Alexander, Prince of Schaumburg-Lippe → Alexander zu Schaumburg-Lippe – WP:NCROY states
Do not use hypothetical, dissolved or defunct titles, including pretenders (real or hypothetical), unless this is what the majority of reliable sources use.
German monarchy was abolished in 1919. The "zu" is in the name instead of "of" as names should not be translated.
Move request on similar pages for reference. D1551D3N7 ( talk) 11:57, 10 March 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BD2412 T 17:33, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
it is generally advisable to use the most common form of the name used in reliable sources in English ("common name" in the case of royalty and nobility may also include a person's title). The article subject is referred to as "Prince Alexander of Schaumburg-Lippe" by The Times, Tatler, South China Morning Post, News.com.au, ¡HOLA! The Daily Beast, Daily Mirror, The News International, and Geo TV. EDIT: CBS News uses "Prince Alexander zu Schaumburg-Lippe" -- StellarHalo ( talk) 11:32, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
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Article titles are based on how reliable English-language sources refer to the article's subject." Also, what happened over at the German Wikipedia is not relevant. If you are not willing to put forward arguments based on Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, then do not reply. StellarHalo ( talk) 14:00, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
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Germany is a republic. No German titles are recognized. DrKay ( talk) 17:09, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
It has been proposed in this section that
Alexander, Prince of Schaumburg-Lippe be
renamed and moved to
Alexander zu Schaumburg-Lippe. A bot will list this discussion on requested moves' current discussions subpage within an hour of this tag being placed. The discussion may be closed 7 days after being opened, if consensus has been reached (see the closing instructions). Please base arguments on article title policy, and keep discussion succinct and civil. Please use {{
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Alexander, Prince of Schaumburg-Lippe → Alexander zu Schaumburg-Lippe – WP:NCROY states
Do not use hypothetical, dissolved or defunct titles, including pretenders (real or hypothetical), unless this is what the majority of reliable sources use.
German monarchy was abolished in 1919. The "zu" is in the name instead of "of" as names should not be translated.
Move request on similar pages for reference. D1551D3N7 ( talk) 11:57, 10 March 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BD2412 T 17:33, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
it is generally advisable to use the most common form of the name used in reliable sources in English ("common name" in the case of royalty and nobility may also include a person's title). The article subject is referred to as "Prince Alexander of Schaumburg-Lippe" by The Times, Tatler, South China Morning Post, News.com.au, ¡HOLA! The Daily Beast, Daily Mirror, The News International, and Geo TV. EDIT: CBS News uses "Prince Alexander zu Schaumburg-Lippe" -- StellarHalo ( talk) 11:32, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
On Wikipedia, original research means...This includes any analysis or synthesis of published material that reaches or implies a conclusion not stated by the sources". Per WP:SYNTH,
do not combine material from multiple sources to reach or imply a conclusion not explicitly stated by any source. Similarly, do not combine different parts of one source to reach or imply a conclusion not explicitly stated by the source.None of the sources you brought up talks about the article subject. In other words, none of what you just said is relevant to this article's title or content. Wikipedia determines which viewpoint is majority or minority based on prominence in reliable sources, not what any one user concludes to be "real" or "truth" based on original research. It publishes what most reliable sources say about a topic and this is reflected in policies regarding Wikipedia:Article titles which says "
Article titles are based on how reliable English-language sources refer to the article's subject." Also, what happened over at the German Wikipedia is not relevant. If you are not willing to put forward arguments based on Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, then do not reply. StellarHalo ( talk) 14:00, 11 March 2024 (UTC)