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Alan Arkin has a major role in this Netflix Original film. [1] [2] I'm not sure which category it belongs in, movie or TV. These categories are expanding and should include cable and premium cable. Where would we have put "Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee" when it only existed on Crackle. (Now I think the new ones come out on Netflix, but I don't know if they are exclusive.) Anyway, my point is maybe there should only be one category and the venue really doesn't matter.
Since it's episodic, I think I'll put it under TV. R39525 ( talk) 20:00, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
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There's at least three places (all right next to each other) that mention him winning the Oscar for best supporting actor. It looks like several different people wrote it in, while watching the Oscars, before checking to see if someone else had already.
Wasn't he Dr. Sidney Freeman, the psychologist, in M*A*S*H*? I was going to just add that, but then I wasn't sure. Could anyone confirm this one way or the other? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shadowviking ( talk • contribs) 02:13, August 29, 2007 (UTC)
Heyllo ppl, there is a photograph of him in Yossarian, the role he played in the movie adaptation of the novel Catch-22. So can't we use it here too? and by the way does this qualify as a children's literature??? Elncid ( talk) 12:37, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
In this article, the birth year of Adam Arkin is stated as 1957. However in the Wikipedia article on Adam Arkin, the year is stated as 1956. In the highly respected reference book "The Film Encyclopedia", 1994 edition, by Ephraim Katz, the year is stated as 1956. 216.80.73.204 ( talk) 23:49, 14 April 2010 (UTC)Douglas Fornango, Chicago, IL (no current email address)
Isn't the picture a little old? -- Diblidabliduu ( talk) 14:48, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
MOS:SERIAL says Editors may use either convention so long as each article is internally consistent.
The lead uses the serial comma consistently except for in the opening sentence. I believe the IP who added a comma after "director" in actor, director and screenwriter
is applying the Manual of Style correctly.
Schazjmd
(talk) 15:01, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
If this: In 1957 he made his feature film acting debut in a small role the musical film Calypso Heat Wave.
then how this: Arkin is one of only six actors to receive an Academy Award nomination for Best Actor for their first screen appearance (for The Russians Are Coming, the Russians Are Coming in 1966).
?
--jpgordon
𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇 22:08, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
(he had a minor role in a film a decade earlier), and similar notes for Ben Kingsley and Geoffrey Rush (both of whom won). But that same ref lists 8 "debut nominees/winners", so our article is off on that point too. Question is, is that source authoritative for calling The Russians... his debut despite the minor role 10 years earlier? Schazjmd (talk) 22:34, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
At this moment (13:49 UTC), only People is reporting that Arkin has died. [3] Given the guidance in WP:Reliable sources/Perennial sources, I am waiting for another source besides people to confirm the news before adding it to the article, even though People is sourcing the statement to Arkin's family. — C.Fred ( talk) 13:50, 30 June 2023 (UTC)
This article has been nominated to be linked on the main page at WP:ITNC. However there is currently a strong consensus that article quality, in particular referencing, does not meet the customary standards expected for articles to be promoted on the main page. Editors may join the discussion at ITNC and are encouraged to help improve the article by adding citations to reliable sources for any claims of fact that are not obviously uncontroversial. This article is still subject to WP:BLP and I have orange tagged it due to the sourcing issues. - Ad Orientem ( talk) 03:23, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
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Really? You don't think there are serious gaps in referencing there? This is the third time the ref improve tag has been improperly removed from the article. I put it there in order to avoid carpet bombing the article with CN tags. But enough is enough. Bombs away. - Ad Orientem ( talk) 14:43, 3 July 2023 (UTC)
Arkin was an early member of the Second City comedy troupe in the 1960s. [1] In 1957, he made his feature film acting debut in a small role in the musical Calypso Heat Wave. citation needed In the early sixties, he appeared in episodes of East Side/West Side (1964) and ABC Stage 67 (1966). citation needed He also made his Broadway debut as a performer in From the Second City at the Royale Theatre in 1961. citation needed
It is not fair to ask of others what you are unwilling to do yourself.
— Eleanor Roosevelt, My Day (15 June 1946)
There is no mention here of his being a member of the musical group The Tarriers, who had a top ten hit in 1956. There is information about this in the wiki article on The Tarriers. 68.234.76.251 ( talk) 22:52, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
Should we be seeking consensus about the best photo to have at the start of the article? It's obviously been changing a lot recently. Per$1$tenceofv1$1on ( talk) 23:34, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
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Does anybody know the correct dates of Arkin's various marriages? Here it says he was married to Barbara Dana until 1994, but in his book "An Improvised Life," he talks about something that happened in 1997 when he was still married to her. Plus, IMDB (I think) says that he divorced her in 1999. In fact, the exact date given is November 2, 1999. But what makes it even weirder is that many sources say that he married Suzanne Newlander in 1996. Does anybody know what's up with these contradictory dates and which are the correct ones? InYourFaceNewYorker ( talk) 01:09, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
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Alan Arkin has a major role in this Netflix Original film. [1] [2] I'm not sure which category it belongs in, movie or TV. These categories are expanding and should include cable and premium cable. Where would we have put "Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee" when it only existed on Crackle. (Now I think the new ones come out on Netflix, but I don't know if they are exclusive.) Anyway, my point is maybe there should only be one category and the venue really doesn't matter.
Since it's episodic, I think I'll put it under TV. R39525 ( talk) 20:00, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
References
There's at least three places (all right next to each other) that mention him winning the Oscar for best supporting actor. It looks like several different people wrote it in, while watching the Oscars, before checking to see if someone else had already.
Wasn't he Dr. Sidney Freeman, the psychologist, in M*A*S*H*? I was going to just add that, but then I wasn't sure. Could anyone confirm this one way or the other? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shadowviking ( talk • contribs) 02:13, August 29, 2007 (UTC)
Heyllo ppl, there is a photograph of him in Yossarian, the role he played in the movie adaptation of the novel Catch-22. So can't we use it here too? and by the way does this qualify as a children's literature??? Elncid ( talk) 12:37, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
In this article, the birth year of Adam Arkin is stated as 1957. However in the Wikipedia article on Adam Arkin, the year is stated as 1956. In the highly respected reference book "The Film Encyclopedia", 1994 edition, by Ephraim Katz, the year is stated as 1956. 216.80.73.204 ( talk) 23:49, 14 April 2010 (UTC)Douglas Fornango, Chicago, IL (no current email address)
Isn't the picture a little old? -- Diblidabliduu ( talk) 14:48, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
MOS:SERIAL says Editors may use either convention so long as each article is internally consistent.
The lead uses the serial comma consistently except for in the opening sentence. I believe the IP who added a comma after "director" in actor, director and screenwriter
is applying the Manual of Style correctly.
Schazjmd
(talk) 15:01, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
If this: In 1957 he made his feature film acting debut in a small role the musical film Calypso Heat Wave.
then how this: Arkin is one of only six actors to receive an Academy Award nomination for Best Actor for their first screen appearance (for The Russians Are Coming, the Russians Are Coming in 1966).
?
--jpgordon
𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇 22:08, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
(he had a minor role in a film a decade earlier), and similar notes for Ben Kingsley and Geoffrey Rush (both of whom won). But that same ref lists 8 "debut nominees/winners", so our article is off on that point too. Question is, is that source authoritative for calling The Russians... his debut despite the minor role 10 years earlier? Schazjmd (talk) 22:34, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
At this moment (13:49 UTC), only People is reporting that Arkin has died. [3] Given the guidance in WP:Reliable sources/Perennial sources, I am waiting for another source besides people to confirm the news before adding it to the article, even though People is sourcing the statement to Arkin's family. — C.Fred ( talk) 13:50, 30 June 2023 (UTC)
This article has been nominated to be linked on the main page at WP:ITNC. However there is currently a strong consensus that article quality, in particular referencing, does not meet the customary standards expected for articles to be promoted on the main page. Editors may join the discussion at ITNC and are encouraged to help improve the article by adding citations to reliable sources for any claims of fact that are not obviously uncontroversial. This article is still subject to WP:BLP and I have orange tagged it due to the sourcing issues. - Ad Orientem ( talk) 03:23, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
(moved from user talk arising after removal of the banner tag)
Really? You don't think there are serious gaps in referencing there? This is the third time the ref improve tag has been improperly removed from the article. I put it there in order to avoid carpet bombing the article with CN tags. But enough is enough. Bombs away. - Ad Orientem ( talk) 14:43, 3 July 2023 (UTC)
Arkin was an early member of the Second City comedy troupe in the 1960s. [1] In 1957, he made his feature film acting debut in a small role in the musical Calypso Heat Wave. citation needed In the early sixties, he appeared in episodes of East Side/West Side (1964) and ABC Stage 67 (1966). citation needed He also made his Broadway debut as a performer in From the Second City at the Royale Theatre in 1961. citation needed
It is not fair to ask of others what you are unwilling to do yourself.
— Eleanor Roosevelt, My Day (15 June 1946)
There is no mention here of his being a member of the musical group The Tarriers, who had a top ten hit in 1956. There is information about this in the wiki article on The Tarriers. 68.234.76.251 ( talk) 22:52, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
Should we be seeking consensus about the best photo to have at the start of the article? It's obviously been changing a lot recently. Per$1$tenceofv1$1on ( talk) 23:34, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
References
Does anybody know the correct dates of Arkin's various marriages? Here it says he was married to Barbara Dana until 1994, but in his book "An Improvised Life," he talks about something that happened in 1997 when he was still married to her. Plus, IMDB (I think) says that he divorced her in 1999. In fact, the exact date given is November 2, 1999. But what makes it even weirder is that many sources say that he married Suzanne Newlander in 1996. Does anybody know what's up with these contradictory dates and which are the correct ones? InYourFaceNewYorker ( talk) 01:09, 8 August 2023 (UTC)