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  • Abou-Donia, M.B., Abou-Donia, M.M., El Masry, E.M., Monro, J.A. & Mulder, M.F.A. (2013). Autoantiobodies to nervous system specific proteins are elevated in sera of flight crew members: biomarkers for nervous system injury. Journal of Toxicology and Environmental Health, A76, 363–80.
  • Abou-Donia, M. B., van de Goot, F. R. W., & Mulder, M. F. A. (2014). Autoantibody markers of neural degeneration are associated with post-mortem histopathological alterations of a neurologically-injured pilot. Journal of Biological Physics and Chemistry, 14, 34-53

-- Lamiot ( talk) 09:11, 19 February 2020 (UTC) reply

The supposed "nocebo effect" is a dubious and unsubstantiated effect on its own, and there is absolutely no research or evidence that it is a factor in bleed air contamination.

Recommend deletion.of "nocebo effect" or adding the above context to its section. KentRSmith ( talk) 06:36, 6 March 2023 (UTC) reply

You need to cite reliable sources to add and to delete content from Wikipedia. Please do not do this again until you find these. I can help with editing if you wish, just let me know if you have any questions on my talk page. AussieWikiDan ( talk) 09:37, 6 March 2023 (UTC) reply
KentRSmith, to be clear, what the article states is not that bleed air contamination would have a negative effect on the passengers and crew, but that they may misattribute any supposed negative effect (real or imagined) to bleed air contamination. -- McSly ( talk) 15:51, 6 March 2023 (UTC) reply
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

For information

  • Abou-Donia, M.B., Abou-Donia, M.M., El Masry, E.M., Monro, J.A. & Mulder, M.F.A. (2013). Autoantiobodies to nervous system specific proteins are elevated in sera of flight crew members: biomarkers for nervous system injury. Journal of Toxicology and Environmental Health, A76, 363–80.
  • Abou-Donia, M. B., van de Goot, F. R. W., & Mulder, M. F. A. (2014). Autoantibody markers of neural degeneration are associated with post-mortem histopathological alterations of a neurologically-injured pilot. Journal of Biological Physics and Chemistry, 14, 34-53

-- Lamiot ( talk) 09:11, 19 February 2020 (UTC) reply

The supposed "nocebo effect" is a dubious and unsubstantiated effect on its own, and there is absolutely no research or evidence that it is a factor in bleed air contamination.

Recommend deletion.of "nocebo effect" or adding the above context to its section. KentRSmith ( talk) 06:36, 6 March 2023 (UTC) reply

You need to cite reliable sources to add and to delete content from Wikipedia. Please do not do this again until you find these. I can help with editing if you wish, just let me know if you have any questions on my talk page. AussieWikiDan ( talk) 09:37, 6 March 2023 (UTC) reply
KentRSmith, to be clear, what the article states is not that bleed air contamination would have a negative effect on the passengers and crew, but that they may misattribute any supposed negative effect (real or imagined) to bleed air contamination. -- McSly ( talk) 15:51, 6 March 2023 (UTC) reply

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