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Adam isn't the first human
There is no section in the Bible that states Adam or Eve are the first humans, in fact, there's parts in the Bible where it implies there's other humans who are not the Children of Adam and Eve. See the Curse of Cain. — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
47.215.87.171 (
talk) 19:17, 11 July 2023 (UTC)reply
We aim to summarise what reliable sources say about any subject. There appears to be a citation to an appropriate academic source supporting the assertion about Adam being the name given to the first human. I'm no expert in the subject area, but if you want to challenge what the article says you are going to have to bring reliable secondary sources discussing the subject that disagree with that assertion. Note that in this case, the Bible is a primary source - we don't interpret it ourselves, we look to what scholars say about it. So, please cite the sources that support your position.
GirthSummit (blether) 19:26, 11 July 2023 (UTC)reply
Books, esp most recent, by John Walton, Prof OT Emeritus, Wheaton college.
DR-Martureo (
talk) 21:58, 25 August 2023 (UTC)reply
See also Joshua Swamidass, The Genealogical Adam and Eve.
DR-Martureo (
talk) 22:42, 25 August 2023 (UTC)reply
Adam was the first person created. Satan and the fallen angels used a small puddle of Eve's menstruation blood to turn the evil Cain to flesh and blood and entered him in Eve's womb. Adam is not the father of Cain, or Cain's twin sister. They both had blonde hair. Abel was also the twin brother to his twin sister. Seth didn't have a twin.
2603:6011:601:1D00:9436:D710:9D07:B55C (
talk) 08:56, 29 October 2023 (UTC)reply
What? Please tell me you made this up for funsies? Blitterbug 05:12, 7 January 2024 (UTC) — Preceding
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“first human-being aware of God”
I don’t see this corroborated in the body of the article or in relevant literature. Am I missing something?
IncandescentBliss (
talk) 09:08, 29 January 2024 (UTC)reply
I think I added this descriptor to encompass as many ideas surrounding Adam as possible. For example, some theologicans proposed the idea of
Pre-Adamite. It should not be understood to be exclusive or implying that there is a common belief about humans unaware of God preceeding Adam. If you think it is distracting, I would be fine with this descriptor being removed as per
MOS:LEAD.
VenusFeuerFalle (
talk) 13:32, 29 January 2024 (UTC)reply
On a second look, the
Druze are mentioned, who speak about Adam as " the first spokesman (natiq), who helped to transmit the foundational teachings of monotheism (tawhid) intended for a larger audience"
VenusFeuerFalle (
talk) 13:34, 29 January 2024 (UTC)reply
Adam was not born
The infobox says he was born on Day 6, 1 AM, but he was not born; he was directly created. Should the infobox be changed to say "Created" and "Died" instead of "Born" and "Died"?
Luke10.27 (
talk) 21:49, 25 February 2024 (UTC)reply
lead section
The lead section has paragraphs on the view of Adam from Christian, Muslim, and Gnostic viewpoints. It seems to me that there a similar paragraph about the Jewish viewpoint.
Ike9898 (
talk) 16:36, 1 March 2024 (UTC)reply
The reason is that
the leadsection is a summary of the article, but there is no section about Judaism in the body of text. (And no, Judaism is not Christianity without the New Testament). As soon as there is a section dedicated to the concept of Adam from Judaism, based on
reliable sources (Original researches from Torah, Tanakh, etc. are not reliable), a paragraph for the Jewish perspective can be added. Therefore, the lead should be added by another topic as soon as there is more in the body of text.
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Adam isn't the first human
There is no section in the Bible that states Adam or Eve are the first humans, in fact, there's parts in the Bible where it implies there's other humans who are not the Children of Adam and Eve. See the Curse of Cain. — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
47.215.87.171 (
talk) 19:17, 11 July 2023 (UTC)reply
We aim to summarise what reliable sources say about any subject. There appears to be a citation to an appropriate academic source supporting the assertion about Adam being the name given to the first human. I'm no expert in the subject area, but if you want to challenge what the article says you are going to have to bring reliable secondary sources discussing the subject that disagree with that assertion. Note that in this case, the Bible is a primary source - we don't interpret it ourselves, we look to what scholars say about it. So, please cite the sources that support your position.
GirthSummit (blether) 19:26, 11 July 2023 (UTC)reply
Books, esp most recent, by John Walton, Prof OT Emeritus, Wheaton college.
DR-Martureo (
talk) 21:58, 25 August 2023 (UTC)reply
See also Joshua Swamidass, The Genealogical Adam and Eve.
DR-Martureo (
talk) 22:42, 25 August 2023 (UTC)reply
Adam was the first person created. Satan and the fallen angels used a small puddle of Eve's menstruation blood to turn the evil Cain to flesh and blood and entered him in Eve's womb. Adam is not the father of Cain, or Cain's twin sister. They both had blonde hair. Abel was also the twin brother to his twin sister. Seth didn't have a twin.
2603:6011:601:1D00:9436:D710:9D07:B55C (
talk) 08:56, 29 October 2023 (UTC)reply
What? Please tell me you made this up for funsies? Blitterbug 05:12, 7 January 2024 (UTC) — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
Blitterbug (
talk •
contribs)
“first human-being aware of God”
I don’t see this corroborated in the body of the article or in relevant literature. Am I missing something?
IncandescentBliss (
talk) 09:08, 29 January 2024 (UTC)reply
I think I added this descriptor to encompass as many ideas surrounding Adam as possible. For example, some theologicans proposed the idea of
Pre-Adamite. It should not be understood to be exclusive or implying that there is a common belief about humans unaware of God preceeding Adam. If you think it is distracting, I would be fine with this descriptor being removed as per
MOS:LEAD.
VenusFeuerFalle (
talk) 13:32, 29 January 2024 (UTC)reply
On a second look, the
Druze are mentioned, who speak about Adam as " the first spokesman (natiq), who helped to transmit the foundational teachings of monotheism (tawhid) intended for a larger audience"
VenusFeuerFalle (
talk) 13:34, 29 January 2024 (UTC)reply
Adam was not born
The infobox says he was born on Day 6, 1 AM, but he was not born; he was directly created. Should the infobox be changed to say "Created" and "Died" instead of "Born" and "Died"?
Luke10.27 (
talk) 21:49, 25 February 2024 (UTC)reply
lead section
The lead section has paragraphs on the view of Adam from Christian, Muslim, and Gnostic viewpoints. It seems to me that there a similar paragraph about the Jewish viewpoint.
Ike9898 (
talk) 16:36, 1 March 2024 (UTC)reply
The reason is that
the leadsection is a summary of the article, but there is no section about Judaism in the body of text. (And no, Judaism is not Christianity without the New Testament). As soon as there is a section dedicated to the concept of Adam from Judaism, based on
reliable sources (Original researches from Torah, Tanakh, etc. are not reliable), a paragraph for the Jewish perspective can be added. Therefore, the lead should be added by another topic as soon as there is more in the body of text.