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I have included the nominees on the list for the following reasons. Please feel free to object to them, but consider them in your revisions. (1) These are the only awards given out during the period in discussion. In later years, when both the Eisners and Harveys were distributed, there is generally disagreement as to who the winner is, although the nominees are generally agreed upon. As there is no way to determine which of the nominees would have won the later alternate award, it seems to me to be most fair to not make that choice at all, and simply list all the nominees. (2) I would ask you to note that in the first year of the Eisners and Harveys, the book Love and Rockets received 9 nominations between them, Zot! 5, and the single issue Justice League #1 4, although none won a single award. This could conceivably mean that such uniform opinion on the quality of the work would be significant. (3) I hate to burst any bubbles here, but the selection of the final award winner for any award is generally, at least in part, "political" in the broadest sense of the word. This was blatantly true in the selection of Yasunari Kawabata and Naguib Mahfouz for the Nobel Prize for Literature, for Jimmy Carter for the Nobel Peace Prize, and clearly played a role in the 2000 presidential elections. Its prominence in entertainment awards is basically unquestioned. While attending school in LA, one filmmaker (who indicated he was involved in the selection) told my class that, had the winner's costar gotten (I seem to remember) 5 more votes than he had, that costar, who would have thus qualified for the top five nominees, would have won instead. And, as we have heard from them repeatedly, the nominations are the most important part thing to the contenders. I am in no way saying that each nomination should be recorded on each particular page, but, if there is a frequency or concensus of nominations, that might be counted as "significant" in and of itself. Badbilltucker 16:23, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
- Hiya, Badbill. In the print materials I have on file, I haven't found any source listing the nominations. The info clearly looks real, and I suspect you have 'zines of the era that gave them in news roundups, so could you through in a citation and a References section? Also, see discussion below -- Tenebrae 21:02, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
I propose we merge this list into the longer, more detailed, and well-referenced Academy of Comic Book Arts entry. (I created it, so forgive the adjectives I just used, but I would have used those same, accurate adjectives regardless of who created it.) Basically the merger would just mean adding the nominations to the ACBA article's extant list of winners, and adjusting for any disrepancies.-- Tenebrae 21:02, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
- No objections whatsoever. By the way, the source of the information was a website which is now listed as a reference on the page. Good luck. B2T2 17:12, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
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I have included the nominees on the list for the following reasons. Please feel free to object to them, but consider them in your revisions. (1) These are the only awards given out during the period in discussion. In later years, when both the Eisners and Harveys were distributed, there is generally disagreement as to who the winner is, although the nominees are generally agreed upon. As there is no way to determine which of the nominees would have won the later alternate award, it seems to me to be most fair to not make that choice at all, and simply list all the nominees. (2) I would ask you to note that in the first year of the Eisners and Harveys, the book Love and Rockets received 9 nominations between them, Zot! 5, and the single issue Justice League #1 4, although none won a single award. This could conceivably mean that such uniform opinion on the quality of the work would be significant. (3) I hate to burst any bubbles here, but the selection of the final award winner for any award is generally, at least in part, "political" in the broadest sense of the word. This was blatantly true in the selection of Yasunari Kawabata and Naguib Mahfouz for the Nobel Prize for Literature, for Jimmy Carter for the Nobel Peace Prize, and clearly played a role in the 2000 presidential elections. Its prominence in entertainment awards is basically unquestioned. While attending school in LA, one filmmaker (who indicated he was involved in the selection) told my class that, had the winner's costar gotten (I seem to remember) 5 more votes than he had, that costar, who would have thus qualified for the top five nominees, would have won instead. And, as we have heard from them repeatedly, the nominations are the most important part thing to the contenders. I am in no way saying that each nomination should be recorded on each particular page, but, if there is a frequency or concensus of nominations, that might be counted as "significant" in and of itself. Badbilltucker 16:23, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
- Hiya, Badbill. In the print materials I have on file, I haven't found any source listing the nominations. The info clearly looks real, and I suspect you have 'zines of the era that gave them in news roundups, so could you through in a citation and a References section? Also, see discussion below -- Tenebrae 21:02, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
I propose we merge this list into the longer, more detailed, and well-referenced Academy of Comic Book Arts entry. (I created it, so forgive the adjectives I just used, but I would have used those same, accurate adjectives regardless of who created it.) Basically the merger would just mean adding the nominations to the ACBA article's extant list of winners, and adjusting for any disrepancies.-- Tenebrae 21:02, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
- No objections whatsoever. By the way, the source of the information was a website which is now listed as a reference on the page. Good luck. B2T2 17:12, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
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