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Abilene paradox v. groupthink

Hi. The text was changed yesterday to suggest that the Abilene paradox is a form of groupthink, but unfortunately the changes contradict the sources used. Sims book, cited in the article, clearly distinguishes (at length) the Abilene paradox from groupthink ("Like Harvey's Abilene theory" p. 53; "The more famous of the two obstacles, groupthink, bears some superficial similarities to the Abilene paradox" p. 54; "groupthink can be distinguished from the Abilene paradox on four different levels" p. 55; "although there are similarities between these two obstacles to qualify group decisions, the two are distinguishable because [reasons recounted]...." p.57)

In the absence of supporting sources, the change to suggest that the Abilene paradox is a subset of groupthink is an issue under both WP:V and WP:NOR.

However, given the confusion, it seems pretty evident that more time needs to be spent explaining why Sims says the Abilene paradox is not groupthink. -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 11:45, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi. Thanks for helping improve the article. Would you be open to considering restoring the external link to the blacklisted webpage. The webpage is only used in the 'External links' section (and nowhere else) in the article. In my view the webpage provides a highly educational, informative and insightful practical example of the Abilene paradox. This practical example is also fun and entertaining to read. In my view, restoring the external link would not damage the article in any way and would only help improve and strengthen the article. Thanks and warm regards, IjonTichy ( talk) 20:40, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Abilene paradox v. groupthink

Hi. The text was changed yesterday to suggest that the Abilene paradox is a form of groupthink, but unfortunately the changes contradict the sources used. Sims book, cited in the article, clearly distinguishes (at length) the Abilene paradox from groupthink ("Like Harvey's Abilene theory" p. 53; "The more famous of the two obstacles, groupthink, bears some superficial similarities to the Abilene paradox" p. 54; "groupthink can be distinguished from the Abilene paradox on four different levels" p. 55; "although there are similarities between these two obstacles to qualify group decisions, the two are distinguishable because [reasons recounted]...." p.57)

In the absence of supporting sources, the change to suggest that the Abilene paradox is a subset of groupthink is an issue under both WP:V and WP:NOR.

However, given the confusion, it seems pretty evident that more time needs to be spent explaining why Sims says the Abilene paradox is not groupthink. -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 11:45, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi. Thanks for helping improve the article. Would you be open to considering restoring the external link to the blacklisted webpage. The webpage is only used in the 'External links' section (and nowhere else) in the article. In my view the webpage provides a highly educational, informative and insightful practical example of the Abilene paradox. This practical example is also fun and entertaining to read. In my view, restoring the external link would not damage the article in any way and would only help improve and strengthen the article. Thanks and warm regards, IjonTichy ( talk) 20:40, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

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