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A fact from Abbey of Saint Winnoc appeared on Wikipedia's
Main Page in the Did you know column on 26 January 2024 (
check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
Did you know... that two towers remain (pictured) of the otherwise almost completely demolished Abbey of Saint Winnoc, because they were used as
daymarks by sailors?
The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
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... that two towers remain (pictured) of the otherwise almost completely demolished Abbey of Saint Winnoc, because they were used as
daymarks by sailors? Source:
Here (in French)
Article length okay at 2851 B (469 words) readable prose size, article creation date versus filing date okay. Sourcing and neutrality good, no evident signs of copyvio. QPQ done. Hook interest good. Re hook sourcing, I guess amer pour les marins is idiomatic? A French-to-English dictionary translates amer as "bitter", which makes no sense in this context. The French Wikipedia article on the abbey has deux tours étant conservées pour servir de point de repère aux bateaux en mer, which is sourced to an 1833 book which has Deux tours furent resérvées pour servir de phares aux marins, where phares can mean "beacon". Image licensing is okay. Unfortunately this image does not show the two structures at equal distance, so it's hard to get a sense of their relative height or how much they stand out from the surrounding landscape. But the others in Commons have the same problem, although
Image:Bergues st winoc tour.jpg is nicely atmospheric.
Wasted Time R (
talk) 13:25, 5 January 2024 (UTC)reply
Thanks for the positive review and for making the effort to dig among the sources, although "amer" is actually also a noun in French, meaning daymark (see e.g. Larousse online
here, which translates it as "seamark"), in addition to being an adjective which exactly as you write means "bitter".
Yakikaki (
talk) 15:39, 5 January 2024 (UTC)reply
Ah, okay, thanks for the explanation. Nice article, good work on it.
Wasted Time R (
talk) 12:25, 6 January 2024 (UTC)reply
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A fact from Abbey of Saint Winnoc appeared on Wikipedia's
Main Page in the Did you know column on 26 January 2024 (
check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
Did you know... that two towers remain (pictured) of the otherwise almost completely demolished Abbey of Saint Winnoc, because they were used as
daymarks by sailors?
The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
this nomination's talk page,
the article's talk page or
Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
... that two towers remain (pictured) of the otherwise almost completely demolished Abbey of Saint Winnoc, because they were used as
daymarks by sailors? Source:
Here (in French)
Article length okay at 2851 B (469 words) readable prose size, article creation date versus filing date okay. Sourcing and neutrality good, no evident signs of copyvio. QPQ done. Hook interest good. Re hook sourcing, I guess amer pour les marins is idiomatic? A French-to-English dictionary translates amer as "bitter", which makes no sense in this context. The French Wikipedia article on the abbey has deux tours étant conservées pour servir de point de repère aux bateaux en mer, which is sourced to an 1833 book which has Deux tours furent resérvées pour servir de phares aux marins, where phares can mean "beacon". Image licensing is okay. Unfortunately this image does not show the two structures at equal distance, so it's hard to get a sense of their relative height or how much they stand out from the surrounding landscape. But the others in Commons have the same problem, although
Image:Bergues st winoc tour.jpg is nicely atmospheric.
Wasted Time R (
talk) 13:25, 5 January 2024 (UTC)reply
Thanks for the positive review and for making the effort to dig among the sources, although "amer" is actually also a noun in French, meaning daymark (see e.g. Larousse online
here, which translates it as "seamark"), in addition to being an adjective which exactly as you write means "bitter".
Yakikaki (
talk) 15:39, 5 January 2024 (UTC)reply
Ah, okay, thanks for the explanation. Nice article, good work on it.
Wasted Time R (
talk) 12:25, 6 January 2024 (UTC)reply