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@ Adamant1: I have some comments re your proposal to delete the article and have placed these here because I cannot find where the discussion re support or opposition for your proposal is located. While I agree that the article in its current form is not notable, I would argue for conversion into a redirect just in case an article is needed in the future. In the meantime, I think the content re ASC Shipbuilding can be spread between several articles.
Firstly, content in ASC Pty Ltd can be expanded to explain the re-structure (by the way, I do not like the use of the word 'dissolution' in the ASC Pty Ltd) of ASC Pty Ltd into three companies, Australian Naval Infrastructure (ANI), something called the "Submarine Enterprise Board" and ASC Shipbuilding. The ASC Pty Ltd annual reports for 2017, 2018 and 2019 (available at the ASC website) appear to have some useful content re this re-structure and re the operation of the new corporate entities in 2018 and 2019.
Secondly, content can be added to Hunter-class frigate to better explain the role of ASC Shipbuilding in the delivery of the vessels as it would appear that the "structural separation" is a requirement of the contract to design and construct the Hunter-class frigates (i.e. the Hunter-class frigate article states that the vessels are to be built in Adelaide, South Australia), i.e. whoever was awarded the contract would need to have ASC Shipbuilding as a subsidiary.
Finally, my reading of the available sources is that the transfer of ASC Shipbuilding to BAE Systems Australia (BAE) is, in effect, a secondment carried out to give BAE full control of the shipyard (now owned by ANI) and ASC Shipbuilding's personnel and assets. Please reply here if you wish to respond to the above.
Regards Cowdy001 ( talk) 07:52, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
Hi ScottDavis, Two sources discussing the reversion of ownership has just been placed on your talk page - please refer User talk:ScottDavis#ASC Shipbuilding. Regards Cowdy001 ( talk) 00:26, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
This article was nominated for deletion on 22 July 2020. The result of the discussion was keep. |
This page was
proposed for deletion by
Adamant1 (
talk ·
contribs) on 6 February 2020 with the comment: Doesn't seem notable. Most of the articles out there are about it getting bought out. Plus there is an article for ASC Pty Ltd. Which seems to be the same company. It was seconded by Aoziwe ( talk · contribs) on 2020-02-07 with the comment: Probably should be merge/redirect to BAE Systems Australia with appropriate cross referencing to ASC Pty Ltd, and if I get time I will do such but failing that, no, this divison is not notable in its own right, hence delete. (Its parent companies are, as is the submarine project.) It was contested by ScottDavis ( talk · contribs) on 2020-02-11 with the comment: doubled the length of the article |
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@ Adamant1: I have some comments re your proposal to delete the article and have placed these here because I cannot find where the discussion re support or opposition for your proposal is located. While I agree that the article in its current form is not notable, I would argue for conversion into a redirect just in case an article is needed in the future. In the meantime, I think the content re ASC Shipbuilding can be spread between several articles.
Firstly, content in ASC Pty Ltd can be expanded to explain the re-structure (by the way, I do not like the use of the word 'dissolution' in the ASC Pty Ltd) of ASC Pty Ltd into three companies, Australian Naval Infrastructure (ANI), something called the "Submarine Enterprise Board" and ASC Shipbuilding. The ASC Pty Ltd annual reports for 2017, 2018 and 2019 (available at the ASC website) appear to have some useful content re this re-structure and re the operation of the new corporate entities in 2018 and 2019.
Secondly, content can be added to Hunter-class frigate to better explain the role of ASC Shipbuilding in the delivery of the vessels as it would appear that the "structural separation" is a requirement of the contract to design and construct the Hunter-class frigates (i.e. the Hunter-class frigate article states that the vessels are to be built in Adelaide, South Australia), i.e. whoever was awarded the contract would need to have ASC Shipbuilding as a subsidiary.
Finally, my reading of the available sources is that the transfer of ASC Shipbuilding to BAE Systems Australia (BAE) is, in effect, a secondment carried out to give BAE full control of the shipyard (now owned by ANI) and ASC Shipbuilding's personnel and assets. Please reply here if you wish to respond to the above.
Regards Cowdy001 ( talk) 07:52, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
Hi ScottDavis, Two sources discussing the reversion of ownership has just been placed on your talk page - please refer User talk:ScottDavis#ASC Shipbuilding. Regards Cowdy001 ( talk) 00:26, 12 February 2020 (UTC)