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I would also like to include their logo, but I'm not sure what the rules are for logos created by government agency? Can I just upload that to the commons? This is a quasi-government agency that is unique to WA State so I don't have a lot of other materials to look at for best practices for citing reference materials. Lumpytrout ( talk) 14:05, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
Hi DGG, I'm hoping to discuss your recent proposal to delete my entry for 4Culture, I realize that you are a much more dedicated wikipedian than I am so I hope you will help me through this process. I think that it is particularly important that we discuss this here on your New York Public Library of the Performing Arts page as this is an important cultural discussion and it strikes at the roots of perspective and the arts.
Your first argument for deletion was " relatively minor branch of a county government", since 4Culture is the LARGEST FUNDER individual artists in the Pacific Northwest region of the United States I would argue that it is in fact a major cultural factor in the region. I realize that we are small potatoes compared to the funding organizations in NY, but I hardly think that makes one of our organizations 'minor'. Since 4Culture is also not a branch of County Government I also felt this was not a valid argument.
Your second argument was "no third party sources, and none would be expected except routine notices." I also disagree with this statement because at least one of my sources was third party. The Seattle Times article demonstrated the tax structure (and struggles) that 4Culture has had as it has grown. I felt it was important to include the state resources (which I assume you would consider 2nd Party sources?) because I felt that those were the most reliable sources for information for budgeting and legal structure.
I clearly do not start many articles in Wikipedia, but I greatly admire what it does for our culture and I only push for a handful of articles which I truly feel are lacking. I started the 4Culture article because I was seeing it repeatedly referenced in Wikipedia (and in popular culture) without any simple explanation of what it was or what it does. It has helped launch the careers with early funding for many artists from Sherman Alexie to Lynn Shelton, it has also been key in developing one of the first percent for public arts programs in the county and is one of only a handful of funding options available for heritage programs.
I hear what you are saying about finding more well rounded sources for this article. I had literally 100's to choose from and picked a few that I felt gave a broad take on the organization. I will list some more if you think my selections are too narrow but please do not delete this article based on it being 'minor', that would be an insult not only to myself but to anyone that enjoys a broad range of arts in our region. I will also post this on the 4Culture discussion page, maybe it would be best to continue this discussion there? thanks! Lumpytrout ( talk) 13:06, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
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I would also like to include their logo, but I'm not sure what the rules are for logos created by government agency? Can I just upload that to the commons? This is a quasi-government agency that is unique to WA State so I don't have a lot of other materials to look at for best practices for citing reference materials. Lumpytrout ( talk) 14:05, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
Hi DGG, I'm hoping to discuss your recent proposal to delete my entry for 4Culture, I realize that you are a much more dedicated wikipedian than I am so I hope you will help me through this process. I think that it is particularly important that we discuss this here on your New York Public Library of the Performing Arts page as this is an important cultural discussion and it strikes at the roots of perspective and the arts.
Your first argument for deletion was " relatively minor branch of a county government", since 4Culture is the LARGEST FUNDER individual artists in the Pacific Northwest region of the United States I would argue that it is in fact a major cultural factor in the region. I realize that we are small potatoes compared to the funding organizations in NY, but I hardly think that makes one of our organizations 'minor'. Since 4Culture is also not a branch of County Government I also felt this was not a valid argument.
Your second argument was "no third party sources, and none would be expected except routine notices." I also disagree with this statement because at least one of my sources was third party. The Seattle Times article demonstrated the tax structure (and struggles) that 4Culture has had as it has grown. I felt it was important to include the state resources (which I assume you would consider 2nd Party sources?) because I felt that those were the most reliable sources for information for budgeting and legal structure.
I clearly do not start many articles in Wikipedia, but I greatly admire what it does for our culture and I only push for a handful of articles which I truly feel are lacking. I started the 4Culture article because I was seeing it repeatedly referenced in Wikipedia (and in popular culture) without any simple explanation of what it was or what it does. It has helped launch the careers with early funding for many artists from Sherman Alexie to Lynn Shelton, it has also been key in developing one of the first percent for public arts programs in the county and is one of only a handful of funding options available for heritage programs.
I hear what you are saying about finding more well rounded sources for this article. I had literally 100's to choose from and picked a few that I felt gave a broad take on the organization. I will list some more if you think my selections are too narrow but please do not delete this article based on it being 'minor', that would be an insult not only to myself but to anyone that enjoys a broad range of arts in our region. I will also post this on the 4Culture discussion page, maybe it would be best to continue this discussion there? thanks! Lumpytrout ( talk) 13:06, 12 February 2014 (UTC)