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This article is incomplete. For one thing, it needs a Reactions section. And it needs more detail in the individual sections about people who were dismissed. Please feel free to add to and improve this article. Thank you. -- MelanieN ( talk) 04:17, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
Thinking that a section from this article might be relevant to include by reference (I forget the wiki term for that - some template goofiness?) within original 1978 AG Act page, such as the proposed IG Independence Act modifications, but perhaps also some of the newspaper-of-record editorial board assessments. Use Reactions section and/or other(s)?
Now wondering if any other changes have been made to IG Act since 2008 update that provided CIGIE. Doug Grinbergs ( talk) 08:16, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
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Overall: I would suggest "dismissed" instead of "fired" as it is a bit less emotive. b uidh e 00:15, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
I just came across this article while perusing today's DYKs. From the other side of the Atlantic, it seems too journalistic in its focus on the current administration and the political reactions. To get some historical perspective, I made a quick browse of Google Books and found some commentary such as this, which indicates that President Reagan made a mass purge of 14 IGs back in 1980. I'm not familiar with the details but suppose that they were being treated as political appointees rather than long-term civil servants. The article seems to need more background and cross-linking to such cases to provide some historical context for current events. Andrew🐉( talk) 14:42, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
Previously in 1981, Ronald Reagan fired 16 inspector generals when he became president, with his administration explaining that Reagan intended to hire his own people. After Congress objected, Reagan rehired 5 of the fired inspector generals. In 1989, George H. W. Bush also attempted to dismiss all the inspector generals upon becoming president, but after the inspector generals and Congress objected, Bush relented. In 2009, President Barack Obama dismissed Corporation for National and Community Service inspector general Gerald Walpin citing a lack of confidence in him. After Congress objected to the lack of explanation, the Obama administration cited that Walpin had shown "troubling and inappropriate conduct", and pointed to an incident that year where Walpin was "disoriented" during a board meeting of the Corporation, which led to the board asking for Walpin's dismissal. Walpin sued for a reinstatement, but the courts ruled against Walpin.
@ MelanieN and Andrew Davidson: - added and sourced to [1] starship .paint ( talk) 06:32, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
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This article is incomplete. For one thing, it needs a Reactions section. And it needs more detail in the individual sections about people who were dismissed. Please feel free to add to and improve this article. Thank you. -- MelanieN ( talk) 04:17, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
Thinking that a section from this article might be relevant to include by reference (I forget the wiki term for that - some template goofiness?) within original 1978 AG Act page, such as the proposed IG Independence Act modifications, but perhaps also some of the newspaper-of-record editorial board assessments. Use Reactions section and/or other(s)?
Now wondering if any other changes have been made to IG Act since 2008 update that provided CIGIE. Doug Grinbergs ( talk) 08:16, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
The result was: promoted by
Yoninah (
talk) 02:17, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
Moved to mainspace by MelanieN ( talk). Self-nominated at 18:15, 21 May 2020 (UTC).
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Overall: I would suggest "dismissed" instead of "fired" as it is a bit less emotive. b uidh e 00:15, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
I just came across this article while perusing today's DYKs. From the other side of the Atlantic, it seems too journalistic in its focus on the current administration and the political reactions. To get some historical perspective, I made a quick browse of Google Books and found some commentary such as this, which indicates that President Reagan made a mass purge of 14 IGs back in 1980. I'm not familiar with the details but suppose that they were being treated as political appointees rather than long-term civil servants. The article seems to need more background and cross-linking to such cases to provide some historical context for current events. Andrew🐉( talk) 14:42, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
Previously in 1981, Ronald Reagan fired 16 inspector generals when he became president, with his administration explaining that Reagan intended to hire his own people. After Congress objected, Reagan rehired 5 of the fired inspector generals. In 1989, George H. W. Bush also attempted to dismiss all the inspector generals upon becoming president, but after the inspector generals and Congress objected, Bush relented. In 2009, President Barack Obama dismissed Corporation for National and Community Service inspector general Gerald Walpin citing a lack of confidence in him. After Congress objected to the lack of explanation, the Obama administration cited that Walpin had shown "troubling and inappropriate conduct", and pointed to an incident that year where Walpin was "disoriented" during a board meeting of the Corporation, which led to the board asking for Walpin's dismissal. Walpin sued for a reinstatement, but the courts ruled against Walpin.
@ MelanieN and Andrew Davidson: - added and sourced to [1] starship .paint ( talk) 06:32, 11 June 2020 (UTC)